How would you feel about end-game gear only being useful for 3 months?

[Murugan]

That's probably a fair point.

But what's the point of releasing content anyway if no one wants to do it? This is what will happen if you make your carrots obsolete every so often.

Even given the possibility that there might be a replacement for the particular item I am going for in a raid I as someone who enjoys endgame would still do it. So would 99.99% of other people who like endgame. Some of my favorite memories from endgame in XI are tied to mobs that honestly had crap drops, but Dynamis? Other than the first time we beat each zones Dynamis became hell trying to get my Relic weapon. That is by far my worst memory of XI's endgame.

But hey at least all the Relic weapons were totally worth it and never replaced.... right?

I'm probably not going to do content multiple times if no one needs something from it, but I don't think that is what will happen/they are saying at all.

[Ilean]

But what's the point of releasing content anyway if no one wants to do it? This is what will happen if you make your carrots obsolete every so often.

It's very very likely that not every single slot for every single class will be replaced every 3 months, also the notion that players won't be willing to do them is ridiculous, at least other MMOs with short gear cycles don't lack people who are willing to play the new dungeons.

[weeble]

Even given the possibility that there might be a replacement for the particular item I am going for in a raid I as someone who enjoys endgame would still do it. So would 99.99% of other people who like endgame. Some of my favorite memories from endgame in XI are tied to mobs that honestly had crap drops, but Dynamis? Other than the first time we beat each zones Dynamis became hell trying to get my Relic weapon. That is by far my worst memory of XI's endgame.
I'm probably not going to do content multiple times if no one needs something from it, but I don't think that is what will happen/they are saying at all.

i think the majority won't even do them at some point, yeah people will want to do them to see them and complete them but after a few times seeing there gear go to the dogs and having to get new set they will stop caring. stop logging in even or worrying about it. and in reality most players in mmo's don't put things together, they take invites. if no one is putting stuff together they are sitting on there tuck-us just asking if there will be a run any time soon? so 8man forced runs ...gear becomes pointless, u really think people will be doing nearly as much as they would of if it was full linkshell events that gear stayed usefull for long periods of time. yeah create lots of dungeons, but on top of this ..make them for materia or make gears stack or bind together from the new dungeons and the epic endgames.

also don't make crafted gear better, make some slots craft, some large scale stuff that lasts long time, and some that needs replacing alot from small man dungeons, that way we get a good taste of it all if anything.

[Ilean]

i think the majority won't even do them at some point, yeah people will want to do them to see them and complete them but after a few times seeing there gear go to the dogs and having to get new set they will stop caring. stop logging in even or worrying about it.

The fact that other MMOs with short gear cycles have very healthy populations disagrees with you.

[weeble]

The fact that other MMOs with short gear cycles have very healthy populations disagrees with you.

but they are all twidling there thumbs waiting for content are they not? i personally wouldn't even pay to keep my account open, i'd shut it down and wait till there is enough content, and then probably be like screw this dungeon i'll keep playing tera or gw2 or diablo3, or swtor. then wait for the next one since it don't really matter.

[User201109011315]

It's a big problem to release new content without motivational factors, but it's also a huge oversight to remove motivational factors for old content.

Some people might do old content "just for the heck of it" but some people might not, so it's good to err on the side of caution, as they say.

[Murugan]

also don't make crafted gear better, make some slots craft, some large scale stuff that lasts long time, and some that needs replacing alot from small man dungeons, that way we get a good taste of it all if anything.

From all I have heard this is exactly what they plan on doing. There are long term goals and short term goals. They can both exist in the same endgame, it is a good thing.

[User201109011315]

Making dungeons drop materia is good because at least then it isn't replacing the base gear itself nor the other potential materia slots from other dungeons.

[Ilean]

but they are all twidling there thumbs waiting for content are they not? i personally wouldn't even pay to keep my account open, i'd shut it down and wait till there is enough content, and then probably be like screw this dungeon i'll keep playing tera or gw2 or diablo3, or swtor. then wait for the next one since it don't really matter.

well... you can do whatever you want

Maybe the guys from tera, gw2 and swtor will come play FFXIV once they are done with their 3monthly dungeon.

[weeble]

Making dungeons drop materia is good because at least then it isn't replacing the base gear itself nor the other potential materia slots from other dungeons.

they can make materia with timers so they run out and you gotta redo them, like assault points for salvage run. make it so some are worth having just for even the next content and people are running them for speed runs for them. rather then just r and b assault though put them spread out to all the old dungeons lol. something that keeps them alive is all.