Yoshi-P / Dev Team please considering adding Abyssea to this game

[NoahArks]

Lol. Abyssea. Didnt you know it ruined the game? Abyssea is the reason FFXI has like 1000 people playing on the gilgamesh server at peak times. Age has nothing to do with this. The abillity to be able to do 1-99 in less than a day is the reason people left.

[Tetsuos]

Lol. Abyssea. Didnt you know it ruined the game? Abyssea is the reason FFXI has like 1000 people playing on the gilgamesh server at peak times. Age has nothing to do with this. The abillity to be able to do 1-99 in less than a day is the reason people left.

When the game released in 2002/2003 it had very mixed results from all the hardcore grinding that you had to do just to be able to do anything in the game. A lot of people quit and never came back to the game even after they made it easier to do things later on. Nobody except a very small percentage of players wants to grind for years IRL to get a relic weapon. Not to mention how difficult it was to get parties unless you were a specific job that was beneficial to whatever the party was killing like RNG on colbiri etc... so the reason the game has faded over time is because of a lot of things (a lot that I will not go into detail about here) not because of one single reason that you specified.

[Stupiduglytaru]

Srsly abyssea ruined ffxi....

[Catwho]

It wasn't that Abyssea ruined the game, per se - it was that they obsoleted 8+ years worth of gear in the course of a single patch. The level 78 pink THF gear was better than upgraded THF relic gear. No matter what method SE had introduced with their level cap raise to 80, anything would have pissed people off if similar gear was added.

It took people about a month to figure out that Abyssea allowed for 300K/hour exp alliances, letting people FINALLY take up additional jobs to cap without spending a year with their flag up because it wasn't one of the favored merit party jobs. Unfortunately since they opened it up to level 30s, that meant people never did any job related quests and generally leveled up to be a shitty level 75+ later on with 0 skills. SE should have locked it to level 60+ to minimize that.

But so many people quit because they were butthurt over the gear - they missed the opportunity to have 20 99s. The rest of us lived and breathed in Abyssea, and by the time my THF was 99 I could solo the tier I NMs there.

[KitingGenbu]

Imho, Abby spelled the end for FFXI, so I'll pass.

[Tsukino]

It wasn't that Abyssea ruined the game, per se - it was that they obsoleted 8+ years worth of gear in the course of a single patch. The level 78 pink THF gear was better than upgraded THF relic gear. No matter what method SE had introduced with their level cap raise to 80, anything would have pissed people off if similar gear was added.

Not just the gear, but the content that went with it. Prior to Abyssea and the level 80 cap, FFXI had a "horizontal" gear progression system for endgame at level 75. A mage would have gear that was the best for regaining MP, the best for landing debuffs, the best for hitting high numbers with damage spells, etc. A melee DD would have gear that was the best for generating TP, the best for landing different types of weapon skills, etc. That system kept them participating in all previously introduced content, not just repeating the most recent thing over and over again.

With the 75 cap, here is a list of things any player could log in to do each week:
- Dynamis
- Limbus
- Force-popped "Sky" Ru'Aun/Ru'Avitau NMs
- HNM camping (both Zilart and Aht Urghan areas)
- Force-popped "Sea" Al'Taieu NMs
- Nyzul Isle
- Non-NI Assault
- Salvage
- Einherjar
- Force-popped "ZNMs" in Aht Urghan areas

Here's a list of things to do after the 80 cap:
- Abyssea

[Tyla_Esmeraude]

2 things:

1. Diadem is nothing like Abyssea, this last one having a better design and concept imo.
2. Abyssea brought in a 360 degree change and people didn't like that change. I don't blame them, but at the same time I managed to adapt and I can't say I hated Abyssea. Shinryu battle was awesome.

Honestly, with the gear getting replaced every few months, bringing in something actually like Abyssea wouldn't matter anymore lol Right now we are on a similar scenario, what else is there to do? Diadem! or Savage if you enjoy pain (I do it seems). A whooping total of 2 things.

[Catwho]

Diadem is closer to Beseiged - drop in battles with lots of big NMs that anyone can participate in. Only there's no defense objective, just a meaningless zerg.

[DragonSlayer45]

No thanks. Abyssea ruined FFXI, and that's a fact.

[Kogasan]

Abby no thanks I had enough of that in ffxi. In fact Abby is what made me quit ffxi. Want Abby go back to ffxi. It'll love you for it.