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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Yeah, there's 5 so far:

    The Aetherochemical Research Facility
    Neverreap
    The Fractal Continuum
    Saint Mocianne's Arboretum
    Pharos Sirius (Hard)

    But only two for the expert roulette. I find myself capping really quickly now though, the occasional Diadem run, Void Ark farming, DREX 3-4 times a week, Level 60 roulette and Alexander if you're gearing alts. There are plenty of options.
    Well those aren't on the roulette which is why I made this thread. I'm sick of the same to dungeons. I have no clue what DREX refers to and I'm kind of disappointed that Void Ark and Alexander are just hallways with a minimum amount of bosses. I hope the raiding scene in this game improves because I am not impressed so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanikk999 View Post
    Well those aren't on the roulette which is why I made this thread. I'm sick of the same to dungeons. I have no clue what DREX refers to and I'm kind of disappointed that Void Ark and Alexander are just hallways with a minimum amount of bosses. I hope the raiding scene in this game improves because I am not impressed so far.
    DREX = Duty Roulette EX.

    The raiding isn't going to change anytime soon, it's been like this since launch and they're likely never going to be given the money to hire more developers. I just play WoW for my Normal/Heroic raiding fix, I prefer the raids there anyway. Not like we have a difficulty on par with that here anyway.
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  3. #13
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    Flo Fyloord
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    They really should do soemthing like enforce min ilvl sync for all level 60 dungeons for Expert. roulette. It's repetitive when all you get is expert coinflip for two dungeons, and the fact taht the general playerbase already overgears it from eso/gordian gear when it releases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    They really should do soemthing like enforce min ilvl sync for all level 60 dungeons for Expert. roulette. It's repetitive when all you get is expert coinflip for two dungeons, and the fact taht the general playerbase already overgears it from eso/gordian gear when it releases.
    I don't know, the people in there are doing DPS equal to that of a fresh level 60 either way.

    But what's your reasoning? The fights lack any interesting mechanics, and all that will really do is drag the dungeon on further thus making them more mind numbingly boring. If they were actually difficult I'd agree, but they're not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    I don't know, the people in there are doing DPS equal to that of a fresh level 60 either way.

    But what's your reasoning? The fights lack any interesting mechanics, and all that will really do is drag the dungeon on further thus making them more mind numbingly boring. If they were actually difficult I'd agree, but they're not.
    Part of the reason of the absence of difficulty is that you overgear it so much, you're skipping or ignoring mechanics. For example the last boss in Saint mocky, the adds that explode won't even appear if both dps is spot on with i200 weapons.

    Not to say that the fights don't need unique mechanics too, the game in general is lacking a lot of innovation with each content patch for existing content (combat, dungeons, raids, jobs, DoL and DoH), and especially 3.0 in general.
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    The dungeons haven't even been out for a month yet and you're already sick to death of them? How did you survive Fractal and Nevereap for 4.5 months?
    Personally, I did each dungeon once (I just resubbed) and am already sick of them. Neverreap and Fractals were much better imo. Granted, I got sick of them to, but didn't have to do it for 4.5 months cuz I unsubbed for part of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Personally, I did each dungeon once (I just resubbed) and am already sick of them. Neverreap and Fractals were much better imo. Granted, I got sick of them to, but didn't have to do it for 4.5 months cuz I unsubbed for part of that.
    so, if you have 3 dungeons, you would be sick after 3 days instead of 2, sounds good
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    Miranda Madison
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    IIRC, we didn't have all the 50 dungeons we have now, right off the bat either. So it'll take a while before we have a variety of 60 dungeons to choose from..
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanikk999 View Post
    Still a very narrow range of activities to keep people interested.
    Void Ark, Diadem, Seal Rock, alexander, extreme primals, all of these give esoterics.

    Only person making you do nothing but 2 dungeons is yourself. I don't even do expert roulette anymore because I cap without trying from the above activities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    Part of the reason of the absence of difficulty is that you overgear it so much, you're skipping or ignoring mechanics. For example the last boss in Saint mocky, the adds that explode won't even appear if both dps is spot on with i200 weapons.

    Not to say that the fights don't need unique mechanics too, the game in general is lacking a lot of innovation with each content patch for existing content (combat, dungeons, raids, jobs, DoL and DoH), and especially 3.0 in general.
    I'd agree if there was any difficulty in those mechanics, but I've seen those flower adds 3-4 times and they die before their castbar has even reached 50%, even with an ilvl sync it wouldn't change much there. Just seems like it would make the dungeon longer without making it any more fun, seems like it'll just burn people out quicker to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Personally, I did each dungeon once (I just resubbed) and am already sick of them. Neverreap and Fractals were much better imo. Granted, I got sick of them to, but didn't have to do it for 4.5 months cuz I unsubbed for part of that.
    Fractal seemed like a lazy dungeon to me, mostly reused assets from The Aetherochemical Research Facility but turned into a much more boring. Neverreap would have been the better of the two if not for all the tornadoes and invincibility mechanics, but anyway, to each their own I guess. Saint Mocianne's Arboretum looks amazing, and that's enough for me since dungeons don't have any real mechanics, Pharos Sirius has amazing music so these two definitely top Fractal and Neverreap for me. The only problem is that out of all the times I've done DREX, it's been the Arboretum 90% of the time so I've grown a bit tired of the dungeon...

    I'm going to end up like this if I keep getting Arboretum.
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