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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Businesses are out to make money, they're going to keep pushing it until they keep making money and the community will adapt and be fine with it. Level boost first introduced to WoW it was an outrage, now? It's fine. Mounts? It was fine, only a few mounts right? Now, most mounts in game are a literal reskin (not even adding extra armour in some cases). Hell, this slippery slope is already in effect with FFXIV. First it was Fantasias, "every MMO does it, there's no problem, it's cheaper than other MMOs" (I agree there), then old event items
    Fear-mongering: the action of deliberately arousing public fear or alarm about a particular issue.

    SE has stated quite specifically their desire to keep Mogstation items limited to glamour and things that won't affect gameplay. Until they actually put something on there that affects gameplay, this is all just hot air, trying to make a bad guy when there aren't actually any present.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    Fear-mongering: the action of deliberately arousing public fear or alarm about a particular issue.

    SE has stated quite specifically their desire to keep Mogstation items limited to glamour and things that won't affect gameplay. Until they actually put something on there that affects gameplay, this is all just hot air, trying to make a bad guy when there aren't actually any present.
    I'm well aware that they don't intend to do that, it would be intentionally offing their own game. Maybe when it's dying and they want to milk it for all its worth, but they'd have gone F2P by then regardless. The point is, glamour is a very big deal in this game. What does this game have going for it, interesting fights? Right, 5-6 fights every 8 months. Why do people run Void Ark 20 times a day? For the gear, what value does the Void Ark gear have? Glamour, that's it, it's entirely worthless due to uncapped Diadem now. A huge part of why quite a lot of people I play is glamour, mount collecting, minion collecting, and so on. As it stands, the cash shop doesn't cut into that too badly, my argument is that they very well might pull a Blizzard and do that, they've gotten more and more frequent with cash shop updates and that's what leads me to believe that.

    PS. Could any form of petition of a very real issue not be considering fear mongering? I hate to compare it to real world issues, but I'll do so anyway. Net Neutrality is a big thing was/is a rather large issue, people were spreading the potential issues ("fearmongering", as you put it) of it changing to a more closed system, and that caused hundreds of thousands to voice their dislike for the system and get it stopped even though it seems to be pop up again every few months. Should we shut up and accept it because we're creating fear? No, it's reasonable to fear such a system because of it's potential, previously proven examples.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    If the item was part of the story mode and it REQUIRES YOU to buy in order to finish the game will you still say it's an optional thing? Clearly not. You already paying for the sub why will you need to pay again?

    The magitek is just a cosmetic thing as well as everything else in the cash shop making it OPTIONAL. In other words , no needed.

    This should be locked as this cash shop business has been talked about over and over again.
    Okay, sure it's optional, but how is that an argument against it? If they decided "You know what, no more craftable glamour sets or Gold Saucer rewards, we'll throw them on the Mog Station instead" would you be fine with that, because it's "optional" in the end, isn't it? I know they won't do something as stupid as that (or I'd hope not anyway), but according to your argument it's optional and we should shut up and accept it.
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    Last edited by Colorful; 12-04-2015 at 12:10 AM.