A question for my fellow BLM's about Spell Speed

[Maero]

tbh Spell Speed> Other stats like crit, det, and acc
Spell Speed is not fluff, lol

[JackFross]

It's fluff in the sense that, while it's better than Crit and Det for BLM, that "better" is an almost inconsequential percentage. Having not really dug too deep into BLM endgame yet, I'm sure there's breakpoints where you gain +1 F4 in your 25 or 20s Enochian that becomes a decent dps gain in the long run, for sure, but between breakpoints, extra SS is just fluff that gives you more opportunity and more breathing room on Blizz 4 casts.

Hence: Fluff. Since it's easily beaten out by boosting your INT score.


Essentially: would you rather use an i200 crit/ss piece, or an i210 crit/det piece, assuming you still reach the required ss for your current rotation with the latter? If you choose the 210 piece, you're agreeing that ss is fluff.

[MagiusNecros]

What if I chose Diadem gear that gives me Crit/SpS/Det?

Btw question. How much Spell Speed would I need to have Fire 4 achieve a cast time of 2.5 seconds? Inquiring minds want to know.

[BlackcatChen]

What's your cast time for Fire 1?

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[MagiusNecros]

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Might have to invest into Diadem and get that Spell Speed up. Shaving off 18 points off a second is impressive. Comparing it from a 600ish value to a 900ish one.

[Judge_Xero]

Yeah, SPD on BLM gives a very nice return. Especially when you consider being in Astral reduces Ice Spell cast times and Umbral reducing Fire Spell cast times.

It's basically 66 SPD is a 1% reduction in cast time/recast time, but because SPD gives exponential gains it's even better than it appears because the more SPD you get the better it becomes.

Look at Blackcat's values.

Fire 2.27 from 2.5 = 9% Reduction in Cast/Recast.

But over 60 seconds look at F1 -> 26.43 casts per minute from 24 casts per minute -> 10% increase in attacks.

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Get that value near a 2s Cast/Recast (20% Reduction in Cast/Recast or 1674 Spell Speed) and you have a 25% increase in casts with only a 20% reduction in Cast/Recast

30 Casts/min VS 24 Casts/min.

This changes with the addition of F4 as it's a 3 Second cast time, but the principle is the same over the period of the fight.

[Waliel]

Do also remember that SS has exponential gains. While a gain of X SS will always reduce your cast times by 0.1s, regardless of what you're sitting on at now, going from 2.4s to 2.3s cast is a higher DPS increase than going from 2.5s to 2.4s cast.

[Nemesis4567]

Spell speed helps you be able to get out more Fire IV's with Enochian up, which can actually be a pretty big increase over the length of a fight. It's definitely worth while to get your spell speed up to about 700. More is always awesome, but 700 puts you in a good place to keep things going and it also helps you have time to make adjustments for moving without losing your buffs.

As for rotations, there's plenty of them out there depending on your playstyle. My personal playstyle enjoys the guides made by Aikaal, which you can search for to check out if you like.

Aikaal eh? Thanks for the tip. Will be checking his guides out soon enough.

[Kenji1134]

Isnt it capped at a 10% reduction though?

Has anyone gotten their gcd down BELOW 2.25s?

[MagiusNecros]

I don't worry about GCD recast time. Before the spell being cast completes it's cast time you can cast another spell already.