Absolute frustration at not being able to see my own DPS (ps4)

[RickXRolled]

The middle ground for this is (for me at least) that there will be a vote system to activate parser in DF party. Or there will be an option to tick "activate party parser" before queuing in DF, then you'll be grouped with people who are also tick the box. It may need more algorithms in the DF queue system for this, but that's the best middle ground that I can think of.

All that would accomplish is all the good players ticking "activate party parser" and the lazy/bad players don't. Thus causing a larger rift between the two. Meanwhile the good players can expect smooth runs while the "I play how I want" crowds get placed in FF14's equivalent of ELO hell, which in turn causes more toxic behaviour then a public parser ever would. Eventually they will give up on it and tick "activate party parser" and before long df will be the same it has always been+parser enabled.

[randysquirrel]

All that would accomplish is all the good players ticking "activate party parser" and the lazy/bad players don't. Thus causing a larger rift between the two. Meanwhile the good players can expect smooth runs while the "I play how I want" crowds get placed in FF14's equivalent of ELO hell, which in turn causes more toxic behaviour then a public parser ever would. Eventually they will give up on it and tick "activate party parser" and before long df will be the same it has always been+parser enabled.

I completely agree, this is what I think would happen. and I welcome it. Clearly the subject of parsers is very divisive. So why not enable this, then those that don't want to be measured by a parse can run around doing their content with like minded people, and those of us that do want a parser can do the same. In fact this is exactly what I want.

I actually do think there is a place for the "I Play how I want" people. and that place is with like minded people, they can all stick together without fear of reprisal.

[Fourbestintoner]

All that would accomplish is all the good players ticking "activate party parser" and the lazy/bad players don't. Thus causing a larger rift between the two. Meanwhile the good players can expect smooth runs while the "I play how I want" crowds get placed in FF14's equivalent of ELO hell, which in turn causes more toxic behaviour then a public parser ever would. Eventually they will give up on it and tick "activate party parser" and before long df will be the same it has always been+parser enabled.

And? I should have no obligation to carry them, see if they like their 70 minutes dungeon or trial wipes with like minded people.
Bad players can mean a lot of things, but the bad that want to improve will turn it on.

[Aquaslash]

. Eventually they will give up on it and tick "activate party parser" and before long df will be the same it has always been+parser enabled.

Or they can just get better? I don't see why we have to let bad players stay bad. Contrary to what all the tryhards in PF that want to set up farm parties a week after content gets released *coughcoughcactuarcoughcough* would have you believe, there ARE sherpas out there who are ready willing and able to help unskilled yet willing and eager players out there. It just takes marginal effort to find them