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    Quote Originally Posted by Delmontyb View Post
    I believe this was talked about before, and I thought it was going to happen with 3.1, but is there any update on when the Duty Roulette: Leveling Dungeons will allow for parties to queue together.

    I often find myself with a friend, and we are unable to take advantage of this Roulette, he playing a tank, and me a healer, just wanting to pick up some randos for DPS.

    Anyway, didn't know if there was an update on this, or this was scrapped for now.

    Thanks,
    There are two purposes for leveling roulette. First is to net you a lot of exp to help progress your secondary jobs faster. The second is to help fill in spots for people who are trying to finish content required to progress in the MSQ or someone queuing for a specific dungeon and need three people. To help fill in for older content. Making pre-made parties would go against that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    The second is to help fill in spots for people who are trying to finish content required to progress in the MSQ or someone queuing for a specific dungeon and need three people. To help fill in for older content. Making pre-made parties would go against that.
    I really fail to see how allowing parties of 2 (or for things like trial roulette, parties of 4) would go against this.

    Worst case: 2 DPS, nothing really changes.
    Middle case: A DPS, but also a healer or tank, so at least one person gets a faster queue and one needed role is taken care of.
    Best case: Healer + Tank, making things much better for DPS.

    In all cases, folks get to play with friends. And that can also draw in people who wouldn't otherwise queue for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
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    It is mostly in the benefit of others and you are rewarded for doing so. If you could make pre-made parties, they would likely reduce the reward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    I really fail to see how allowing parties of 2 (or for things like trial roulette, parties of 4) would go against this.

    Worst case: 2 DPS, nothing really changes.
    Middle case: A DPS, but also a healer or tank, so at least one person gets a faster queue and one needed role is taken care of.
    Best case: Healer + Tank, making things much better for DPS.

    In all cases, folks get to play with friends. And that can also draw in people who wouldn't otherwise queue for it.
    I think that there are more people who don't queue for this content because they can't play with their friends. I fully understand the argument against it. But from my own personal experiences, I'm helping my friends level up their character, and tell them, do this without me once a day. They typically go, no thanks, let's do something together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delmontyb View Post
    I think that there are more people who don't queue for this content because they can't play with their friends. I fully understand the argument against it. But from my own personal experiences, I'm helping my friends level up their character, and tell them, do this without me once a day. They typically go, no thanks, let's do something together.
    But you don't need a Roulette for this when you want to tag along with your friends. Entering the queue with them on the dungeon that is on their level works fine just as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    But you don't need a Roulette for this when you want to tag along with your friends. Entering the queue with them on the dungeon that is on their level works fine just as well.
    Agreed with you 100% and that's a lot of fun, and that's what we do. But we end up missing out on additional XP or tombs because we enjoy playing with one another.

    I can understand both sides, I just think it would be nice to take part in this content together. Usually we have 2 to 3 people, and just need to pick up another DPS. Running their level dungons are fine, but what we end up doing is skipping leveling all together and do something else, thus keeping another tank and healer out of the leveling queue. Which is where I'm coming from. I think that this queue would be better for DPS if they allowed this. It might not be, so I'd be interested in seeing them turn it on and watch to see if it made the system better, and if it didn't, turn it back to solo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delmontyb View Post
    I think that there are more people who don't queue for this content because they can't play with their friends. I fully understand the argument against it. But from my own personal experiences, I'm helping my friends level up their character, and tell them, do this without me once a day. They typically go, no thanks, let's do something together.
    one day your children will grow older and have to venture out on their own
    seriously though, i have friends like this and it astounds me how little they learn because they dont experience the different play styles or approaches to content others can offer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delmontyb View Post
    I think that there are more people who don't queue for this content because they can't play with their friends. I fully understand the argument against it. But from my own personal experiences, I'm helping my friends level up their character, and tell them, do this without me once a day. They typically go, no thanks, let's do something together.
    I rarely queue for leveling roulette. When I do, it's usually because I'm trying to make leveling an alt go a bit faster, usually at very low levels, and even then it's not very often. Don't think I've touched it in weeks.

    When leveling whm, I queued up for specific dungeons with a tank from my FC. Did dozens of runs with the 2 of us, occasionally pulling in other FC members (letting them know what happened and asking if they want to queue in progress) if people bailed on our groups. I've also had multiple players in my FC (several of them completely new to the game) ask if anyone wants to group up for roulette, only to learn that they can't. We usually end up just queuing specific, or they just go in alone and everyone keeps doing their own thing. It gets a bit frustrating at times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    There are two purposes for leveling roulette. First is to net you a lot of exp to help progress your secondary jobs faster. The second is to help fill in spots for people who are trying to finish content required to progress in the MSQ or someone queuing for a specific dungeon and need three people. To help fill in for older content. Making pre-made parties would go against that.
    BECAUSE WAITING 3 HOURS FOR QUEUE AS DPS MAKES SENSE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaSnowfield View Post
    BECAUSE WAITING 3 HOURS FOR QUEUE AS DPS MAKES SENSE.
    You're on the more popular NA data center, and since ques seem to be fixed or reverted back or whatever, it should be back to 45 min or less. Has been for me.
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