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    Anemone_Valesti's Avatar
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    Hitman Hohenheim
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post

    I will not understand the people who are against such a system. I understand the concern if people are talking about doing a full premade party for leveling roulette.
    Ummm...at least 2 queuing people is still a guarantee that one less person will benefit from the intended purpose of the Leveling Roulette >.>. Nothing complex to understand about it.
    I would also think that it's easier to fill in New Parties with a single individual rather than a premade of 2 or more members. Yes there are some new players/leveling alt players that play with a friend or friends, thus possibly fitting for the 2 premade members, but there are probably much more that dont.

    - A Party missing an 1 member can be filled by 1 member but not 2 or more members.
    - A Party missing 2 members can be filled by 2 Individual members but not 3 or more members.
    - A Party missing 3 members can be filled by 3 Individual members but not 4
    - A Party formed entirely of a Premade takes a shit on the whole system Lol

    Be it full Premade or not, it still Takes a dump on the system, just to a lesser degree...almost like little Bunny Poops.
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    Last edited by Anemone_Valesti; 12-02-2015 at 04:51 AM.

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    Lan_Mantear's Avatar
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    Lan Mantear
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 80
    I agree with the opinion that the purpose is to lower queue times for people leveling for MSQ, etc. Which is why you'll sometimes get the primals normal. I am however, annoyed with how long the que has been for DPS as of late.

    How would the roulette be affected by letting 2 people que for it in the same party? We'd need a mathematician to determine that. I wish SE would be more transparent with their Roulette algorithm. So that us players can understand why it takes me 3 hrs to que as a dps and <30 seconds as a tank/healer -_-
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    TemporalKitling's Avatar
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    Nymphele Isialye
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    And this argument isn't just left to roulettes, it can be any content. I play with family and my best friend, and more often than not, they will not run content without me present (I play primarily tank or heal) and while I have no issues hopping on low level roulette, as I do twice a day as tank, but yeah, the countless others who are living with "stranger danger" does hinder its progress. I do want an explantion for how they pair people in roulettes.
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Leveling roulette is just fine the way it is. There are plenty of ways to level with friends outside of roulettes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Leveling roulette is just fine the way it is. There are plenty of ways to level with friends outside of roulettes.
    "just fine" doesn't mean it can't be better. currently it does nothing to entice Lv 60 tanks and healers to help their friends.

    currently, i would never ask a friend to help if they get nothing at all from the content. if they are able to get the Roulette bonus, it would make people more comfortable to ask their friends, which not only helps themselves but other people as well.

    the only limitation to make it better would be to bar full 4 man groups and perhaps add a small penalty for 3 people.
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    Willow Rivers
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    "just fine" doesn't mean it can't be better. currently it does nothing to entice Lv 60 tanks and healers to help their friends.

    currently, i would never ask a friend to help if they get nothing at all from the content. if they are able to get the Roulette bonus, it would make people more comfortable to ask their friends, which not only helps themselves but other people as well.

    the only limitation to make it better would be to bar full 4 man groups and perhaps add a small penalty for 3 people.
    I help friends all the time and get nothing in turn for it. I enjoy helping them level up and running dungeons even without any kind of reward. Just playing together and chatting as we do so is enough for me to have fun. I have plenty of time to do other stuff when they aren't around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    "just fine" doesn't mean it can't be better. currently it does nothing to entice Lv 60 tanks and healers to help their friends.
    No you can make it worse. It's fine the way it is. Sorry but queue with your friends for the tons of other content there is in the game. I queue as a tank all the time for leveling and I did it with my healers as well. It's meant for new players and those leveling and not for level 60 players. You can do that for level 60 dungeons and expert roulette as it. There is nothing wrong with the current venue other than you don't like it.
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    Brin Zalazar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    No you can make it worse. It's fine the way it is. Sorry but queue with your friends for the tons of other content there is in the game. I queue as a tank all the time for leveling and I did it with my healers as well. It's meant for new players and those leveling and not for level 60 players. You can do that for level 60 dungeons and expert roulette as it. There is nothing wrong with the current venue other than you don't like it.
    You shouldn't stop from trying new ideas, for fear of making something worse, when they could very easily reverse it at patch, or hotfix later. Since we don't have any statistics any of our arguments at this point are all speculation and so we are all speaking from personal experience.

    I say let's give it a shot and see if it ends up being better, and if it's not worse, then everyone wins.
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delmontyb View Post
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    Again, the developers would very likely reduce the reward if you were allowed to make pre-made parties for it. It's specific purpose is to help with newer players trying to get through lower level content and give you a nice amount of EXP for those that play casually. If you can make pre-made parties instead, it defeats the purpose and would likely give a reward similar to lv.50 roulette. The amount you get from doing it is just too nice to ask to change/reduce.

    If anything, the system is brilliantly designed. Before barely anyone touched the Low Level Dungeon roulette till they altered it like this. It is a have your cake and eat it also situation on the dev's end. You not only get a good amount of EXP for completing it, but you also potentially help someone through a specific dungeon they need to complete.
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    Skadi Felis
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    It can work, if the roulette exp reward get reduced by 20% for every extra member in a premade party.
    This way the players will keep the premade party small enough and would not do it with 4 man.
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    Last edited by Felis; 12-02-2015 at 05:18 AM.

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