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  1. #21
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    It can work, if the roulette exp reward get reduced by 20% for every extra member in a premade party.
    This way the players will keep the premade party small enough and would not do it with 4 man.
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    But you don't need a Roulette for this when you want to tag along with your friends. Entering the queue with them on the dungeon that is on their level works fine just as well.
    Agreed with you 100% and that's a lot of fun, and that's what we do. But we end up missing out on additional XP or tombs because we enjoy playing with one another.

    I can understand both sides, I just think it would be nice to take part in this content together. Usually we have 2 to 3 people, and just need to pick up another DPS. Running their level dungons are fine, but what we end up doing is skipping leveling all together and do something else, thus keeping another tank and healer out of the leveling queue. Which is where I'm coming from. I think that this queue would be better for DPS if they allowed this. It might not be, so I'd be interested in seeing them turn it on and watch to see if it made the system better, and if it didn't, turn it back to solo.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    It can work, if the roulette exp reward get reduced by 20% for every extra member in a premade party.
    This way the players will keep the premade party small enough and would not do it with 4 man.
    Not a bad idea Felis.
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  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Leveling roulette is just fine the way it is. There are plenty of ways to level with friends outside of roulettes.
    "just fine" doesn't mean it can't be better. currently it does nothing to entice Lv 60 tanks and healers to help their friends.

    currently, i would never ask a friend to help if they get nothing at all from the content. if they are able to get the Roulette bonus, it would make people more comfortable to ask their friends, which not only helps themselves but other people as well.

    the only limitation to make it better would be to bar full 4 man groups and perhaps add a small penalty for 3 people.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    "just fine" doesn't mean it can't be better. currently it does nothing to entice Lv 60 tanks and healers to help their friends.

    currently, i would never ask a friend to help if they get nothing at all from the content. if they are able to get the Roulette bonus, it would make people more comfortable to ask their friends, which not only helps themselves but other people as well.

    the only limitation to make it better would be to bar full 4 man groups and perhaps add a small penalty for 3 people.
    I help friends all the time and get nothing in turn for it. I enjoy helping them level up and running dungeons even without any kind of reward. Just playing together and chatting as we do so is enough for me to have fun. I have plenty of time to do other stuff when they aren't around.
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  6. #26
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    I personally never run that roulette, like ever. (And alot of my friends in game are the same) Why? Because I can't run it with my gf. While I do agree it's possible that it makes for longer Q, it also means that some people who never run it start running it, making for a possible bigger pool of people running it and possibly lower Qs.

    Personally I hope they decide to add group Queuing.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    "just fine" doesn't mean it can't be better. currently it does nothing to entice Lv 60 tanks and healers to help their friends.
    No you can make it worse. It's fine the way it is. Sorry but queue with your friends for the tons of other content there is in the game. I queue as a tank all the time for leveling and I did it with my healers as well. It's meant for new players and those leveling and not for level 60 players. You can do that for level 60 dungeons and expert roulette as it. There is nothing wrong with the current venue other than you don't like it.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    No you can make it worse. It's fine the way it is. Sorry but queue with your friends for the tons of other content there is in the game. I queue as a tank all the time for leveling and I did it with my healers as well. It's meant for new players and those leveling and not for level 60 players. You can do that for level 60 dungeons and expert roulette as it. There is nothing wrong with the current venue other than you don't like it.
    You shouldn't stop from trying new ideas, for fear of making something worse, when they could very easily reverse it at patch, or hotfix later. Since we don't have any statistics any of our arguments at this point are all speculation and so we are all speaking from personal experience.

    I say let's give it a shot and see if it ends up being better, and if it's not worse, then everyone wins.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delmontyb View Post
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    Again, the developers would very likely reduce the reward if you were allowed to make pre-made parties for it. It's specific purpose is to help with newer players trying to get through lower level content and give you a nice amount of EXP for those that play casually. If you can make pre-made parties instead, it defeats the purpose and would likely give a reward similar to lv.50 roulette. The amount you get from doing it is just too nice to ask to change/reduce.

    If anything, the system is brilliantly designed. Before barely anyone touched the Low Level Dungeon roulette till they altered it like this. It is a have your cake and eat it also situation on the dev's end. You not only get a good amount of EXP for completing it, but you also potentially help someone through a specific dungeon they need to complete.
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    Its something you do once a day. Surely you can take 20 minutes out of your busy grouphug sessions to do a single dungeon.

    Hell, if you have 3 other friends who also need it, then you CAN end up in the same party if you all queue together. If you don't, then oh well. Clear the dungeon you get and then go back to playing with your friends. Its not difficult.

    Also, if SE relented and allowed 2player groups to do the LEveling Roulette, eventually the pressure would mount for 3 people and then again for 4 and then whoops, we just invalidated the entire point of the Leveling Roulette!
    It was implemented as a reward for helping other people. If you aren't helping strangers through a Dungeon, why should you deserve the same or even part of the reward that was designed to get high level players to help low level players who happened to NOT be on their friends list?
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