New Mogstation Items (Magitek mount recolours inc.)

[Colorful]

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Unless you can somehow get the majority to side with your opinion and stop purchasing from the Mogstation, yes, protesting is useless. I'm assuming you and every other protestor hasn't bought a single thing from the Mogstation, including retainers, correct? How far has that convinced SE to change it's way with it? Not at all, once the protestors leave, they'll start throwing more items on the Mogstation to gouge existing players further, but as long as it stays items that aren't completely new, I'll remain. The day I see more than a few entirely new items on the Mogstation is the day I quit the game, or earlier if I start to dislike it of course.

You're complaining about the price but you'll buy it anyway, not really seeing the issue here?
Are most Final Fantasy XIV players tsundere or something?
"Hmph! $12!? That's too pricey, b-but I'll buy it anyway, please look forward to my payment....baka"

I thought my GPU was a tad expensive, but I bought it regardless due to being able to afford it, I think TVs are unnecessary expensive, and yet they sell in the millions and I'm one who purchases them, I think food can be a tad expensive too at times, and yet I still buy it. Have you never thought something was more expensive than it should be but bought it? Unlikely, but who knows. Regardless, I'm not saying it's "Outrageously expensive" just more expensive than it should be.

[Yasuhiro]

I thought my GPU was a tad expensive, but I bought it regardless due to being able to afford it, I think TVs are unnecessary expensive, and yet they sell in the millions and I'm one who purchases them, I think food can be a tad expensive too at times, and yet I still buy it. Have you never thought something was more expensive than it should be but bought it? Unlikely, but who knows. Regardless, I'm not saying it's "Outrageously expensive" just more expensive than it should be.

A TV and GPU is little different to something that already exists in the game's assets but uhh....keep trying to justify why there's nothing wrong with what they're putting up on the cash shop, assets that again already exist in the game $12 for Red and White, thank you Square Enix!

[Colorful]

A TV and GPU is little different to something that already exists in the game's assets but uhh....keep trying to justify why there's nothing wrong with what they're putting up on the cash shop. When the dev team announces that they're taking another holiday then I can rest easy knowing where my money from the cashshop is going.

I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with it, I don't like it either. But here are my options, buy it from the cash shop or never have it. $12 is a rather small price in the grand scheme of things (yeah I'm attempting to justify my spending on it), but it's not like there's another option. Besides, I haven't decided if I'll actually buy it yet.

[Jynx]

How far has that convinced SE to change it's way with it? Not at all.

I wouldn't be suprised if them releasing the cash shop only dyes wasn't due to hillariously sluggish sales after the initial hype-train and whales spending all they own on them the metalic dyes were not very common. now they are atainable in-game, if they were selling them hand-over fist I doubt this would be the case.


Just because SE doesn't come out and say "Jeese guys sorry we were bleeding your wallets" doesn't mean the people who aren't purchasing this content don't have an effect. the "Majority" may not be as much of a "Majority" as you think it is. I mean how many Slepnir mounts are there actually compared to the size of the playerbase? Not really alot I would imagine, also these purchased items have had consumer blowback as well with mounts like Slepnir being called out for not flying, or having special emotes requiring them to go back and put work into them to justify the purchase to the consumer.

It doesn't take alot of people to shell out to make the reskins profitable for SE, but there are farther reaching implications to these things in the long run and consumer apathy doesn't just happen overnight it builds and it can snowball before they realize it. The issues continue to mount and there will be a boiling point if they don't get their ducks in a row.

-Inventory issues
-Glamor restrictions due to cash shop
-Server instabillity
-Delayed patches

Now before anyone jumps on me I'm not on the developers about this I know the pool fools have no choice usually but their marketing arm needs to back down they are siphoning too much consumer good-will especially for a company that is just coming out of a spat of shaky reputation with their game releases.

[BreathlessTao]

It doesn't take alot of people to shell out to make the reskins profitable for SE

That's exactly the problem though, technically with something like the reskins that really require zero dev resource, one purchase already means profit. :/ Even if it is indeed a very small drop in the ocean.

[Jynx]

That's exactly the problem though, technically with something like the reskins that really requires zero dev resource, one purchase already means profit. :/ Even if it is indeed a very small drop in the ocean.

The real point is that if they added these kind of things into the game at no extra cost as incentives to play the game. Acheivment rewards, gold Saucer rewards, commendation rewards, you can make these zero dev time items do real "Work" for you at give the players more value to the subscription. People are less likely to fall into the patch on (Pay for a month) and then dissapear for months until the next patch arrives. Getting your customers to stay subscribed steadilly "Should" be worth more than the cash shop is bringing in.

[Colorful]

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I wouldn't be surprised if the dyes sold poorly, for one they're metallic and look bad on almost every piece of armour that isn't metallic and purchasing limited dyes is silly concept to me. Even in a free to play game you buy them once and you have the dye unlocked permanently, just one more way for SE to clutter our inventory.

If you have the know how you could scan the Lodestone for characters with the Sleipnir mount and get a number, but let's assume the player base is at 600k players and 5% of players own it, that's still 3 quarters of a million on something that took them 5 minutes of tinkering with development tools. They're releasing mounts because they're very profitable and for minimal amounts of work, should they be obtainable in game? Yes (as long as it isn't something absurd like 1m MGP), but will they? No, not from what I've seen. But all the new mount models (other than Sleipnir) have been released in game, SE hasn't crossed the line quite yet.

Protesting against those issues won't help unless we unsubscribe in mass, and I see that you're still subscribed. Yoshida clearly wants the resources to further his project, but the higher ups want to gouge the profits and use them for other projects or profits. As it stands, it's working. They're not investing more into FFXIV and yet, I'm still giving them my money, you're still giving them your money, every protestor here is giving them their money. It's hypocritical to say the least, I dislike the direction the cash shop is going in and yet I think about spending money on there, you dislike the server limitations and yet you're paying money for these awful servers. What does that say? That everything is fine, money talks, and you're not talking (but hey, neither am I).

[Jynx]

you dislike the server limitations and yet you're paying money for these awful servers. What does that say?

Besides the fact that I have wavered on my subscription before instead of being a constant subscriber?

I pay for what I feel is a fair value, the base subscription does that just fine, it doesn't mean I don't feel it could be far better. I don't purchase from the cash shop because it is not worth my investment, the game as a whole? Perhaps if they continue down the path they are going I will vote with my wallet and leave. Money isn't the only thing that talks, but I'll leave it at that. It's not just a mass player exodus that would change their tune.

[Derceto]

... that's still 3 quarters of a million on something that took them 5 minutes of tinkering with development tools. They're releasing mounts because they're very profitable and for minimal amounts of work, should they be obtainable in game? Yes (as long as it isn't something absurd like 1m MGP), but will they? No, not from what I've seen. But all the new mount models (other than Sleipnir) have been released in game, SE hasn't crossed the line quite yet.

Okay. I've been gone from the game a good while, but..... when did they start letting people who make sense on the forums? Surely you will be hunted down by the moderators and made to suffer for this.

On a second note. As I said, I've been gone from the game a while, and it's crap like this cash shop that makes me want to abandon it again. Get your collective head, out of your rear SE.