Harassment of DoL in Diadem via DF

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To all the people who are screaming "You cant enter the Diadem as gatherer therefore you're not supposed to gather!!": I would like to remind you that this is far from the truth. You cant enter as gatherer because that would have required them to change the whole queue system. I agree that someone - ANYONE, maybe it be a gatherer, someone who is afk or probadly only lost at the other end of the map - who didnt contributed to killing a mob shouldnt be able to loot. But forcing everyone to farm this in the most "effient" way...? Uurgh, thats just wrong. Would you start complaining aswell if three people would decided that they dont wanna go hunt dinosaurs and try to three-man lower ranks instead, just for fun?

Also, i have yet to hear a gatherer complain that those mobs close to our nodes dont get killed... I'm pretty sure the original concept of SE was to make people work together - hence the FC-thing - so if we have DoW/M complaining that they cant get enough credit once they've lost 2 people, why dont those 2 people not complaining that they're not getting any help with those fat birds guarding their next tree? I'll tell you why: Because they dont force their ways on you. You're calling them selfish, yet all you care about is that YOU are getting YOUR loot. Because you want your "BiS" everyone has to follow your lead? Sounds like you need... mmh... I dont know... a group of people sharing that same goal... like... a raid group... or a static... or just a PF...

[Cidolfas86]

why dont those 2 people not complaining that they're not getting any help with those fat birds guarding their next tree? I'll tell you why: Because they dont force their ways on you.

Devils Advocate: The moment those two players ran off to gather in lieu of the party consensus/wishes they did just that: force their ways on to 6 other people.

I'll tell you why: Because they dont force their ways on you. You're calling them selfish, yet all you care about is that YOU are getting YOUR loot. Because you want your "BiS" everyone has to follow your lead? Sounds like you need... mmh... I dont know... a group of people sharing that same goal... like... a raid group... or a static... or just a PF...

These kinds of arguments go both ways, and the horse has beaten on this enough times that I don't know why it keeps coming up. The best answer is to be considerate of the other people around you when deciding major objectives of the group. Diadem at its core is a group activity, so no, you shouldn't run off to do whatever you want because "lulz i duz wat i wantz dun force ur self on meh!". If the majority wish to grind for gear and a majority consensus has been reached then that is what should be done. If the majority wish to gather and a majority consensus has been reached then that is what should be done.

And if all your looking to do is gather there are ways to do that that don't require use of the DF as suggested in this thread already.

Civility and respecting the wishes of the group should take precedence over individual wants and needs in a team based activity-anything else is inherently selfish regardless of how anyone tries to spin it. Of course asking for any of this is far too much for the NA/EU community.