Quote Originally Posted by NRhodes View Post
There needs to be a clear separation between those who raid and those who don't
No there's not. This kind of mentality holds back horizontal progression from being implemented and cause the chaos we have now with 2 different difficulties of the same raid.

What we need is not a clear separation, we need REAL CHOICE OF GEARING. Make harder dungeons with relevant gear, 24-man raids also with relevant gear, keep Diadem, keep tomestones, make primals drop acessories with different effects. All with the same ilv, and keep BiS for Raid tier. This "clear separation" mentality don't belong in a FF.