Ascian Prime EX

[Dualblade]

Depends, do we have to give up a new primal like we did with ThordanEX? If the answer is yes, then no, I'd rather have a new primal. If it's alongside a new primal, then more content is always great.

Did they say they had to give up a new Primal fight for ThordanEX? This is the first time I'm hearing that (and its not like they had to do that for Ultima's Bane)

Throw in Nabrialas to surprise us that its a bit more then just a straight up harder version of the fight and I'm in for Ascian EX.

[Colorful]

Did they say they had to give up a new Primal fight for ThordanEX? This is the first time I'm hearing that (and its not like they had to do that for Ultima's Bane)

Throw in Nabrialas to surprise us that its a bit more then just a straight up harder version of the fight and I'm in for Ascian EX.

We've had a new primal every patch since 2.0, and with 3.1 we didn't get one. I think it's safe to assume that this mechanically complex fight took the development time out of those, but regardless Yoshida did mention that this was replacement for the EX fight, or rather is the EX fight of this patch, and future EX fights won't be like this.

Yoshida: We've said this before, but the battle was intended to sit between the normal and savage versions of Alexander Gordias. This one in particular was designed as a challenge for players who are working on the third area of savage to give them another near-term goal and prevent them from getting bored by giving them a new Knight weapon which they can use to keep pushing in the third part of savage. So, based on that, this is kind of a unique difficulty. For the next extreme primal we'll probably scale back the level of difficult

[Dualblade]

snip.

Alright, makes sense. Though now I'm wondering what the next primal will be. We've covered quite a few of the major ones already, and Ravana has also show they have a willingness to make ones that would specifially be for FFXIV. Outside of the Warring Triad there doesn't seem to be many Primals to go with right now (unless they do start going with the Ivalice line.)

[Toguro]

Alright, makes sense. Though now I'm wondering what the next primal will be. We've covered quite a few of the major ones already, and Ravana has also show they have a willingness to make ones that would specifially be for FFXIV. Outside of the Warring Triad there doesn't seem to be many Primals to go with right now (unless they do start going with the Ivalice line.)

They can make a Roegadyn primal for all the pain Roes go through.

To be honest.. that would be awesome.....

[CyrilLucifer]

Alright, makes sense. Though now I'm wondering what the next primal will be. We've covered quite a few of the major ones already, and Ravana has also show they have a willingness to make ones that would specifially be for FFXIV. Outside of the Warring Triad there doesn't seem to be many Primals to go with right now (unless they do start going with the Ivalice line.)

Even Ravana was pretty similar to a FFXI Naraka family, with the armored humanoid, 4-armed stance changes and whatnot.

[Colorful]

Alright, makes sense. Though now I'm wondering what the next primal will be. We've covered quite a few of the major ones already, and Ravana has also show they have a willingness to make ones that would specifially be for FFXIV. Outside of the Warring Triad there doesn't seem to be many Primals to go with right now (unless they do start going with the Ivalice line.)

Ravana and Bismarck have been my favourite primals so far, so the more "original" (I know Ravana and Bismarck aren't 100% original), would be better than ones based on other FF games. As for potential primals, I'd really like to see an Anima primal, especially if it plays part in the new Anima weapons. Otherwise they don't need to be primals, Omega weapon and one of the Warriors of Darkness could be viable choices.

Actually Yoshida said that the original King Thordan battle included about 70% of the existing mechanics in the EX. But he thought it would be too hard for people to beat so he toned it down ALOT so people doing the main storyline could complete it. This is from that interview btw.

Also, have a strong feeling all of their time definitely went into Diadem and Lord Of Verminion. Considering the size of its section of the patch notes.

If not for the EX fight there would have been a rather large outrage of less content, and they would have made a new one and reallocated resources from elsewhere. Instead they made ThordanEX in its place, so we didn't get a new primal due to it. But regardless, the Ascian Prime was from a MSQ dungeon, meaning there is no hard mode so they'd have to start from scratch, giving us no new trial. I don't think the encounter team worked on Lords of Verminion either.

[Toguro]

If not for the EX fight there would have been a rather large outrage of less content, and they would have made a new one and reallocated resources from elsewhere. Instead they made ThordanEX in its place, so we didn't get a new primal due to it. But regardless, the Ascian Prime was from a MSQ dungeon, meaning there is no hard mode so they'd have to start from scratch, giving us no new trial. I don't think the encounter team worked on Lords of Verminion either.

I understand but if Yoshida is claiming that 70% of Thordan EX was already made before Heavensward even came out and they just tweaked it for the MSQ.... where did that time go to??? They couldn't have been working on 30% of Thordan EX the whole time.. their resources and time must've went somewhere.

On a side note, I love Ravana. Don't like the whal-..Bismark

[Dualblade]

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How could I forget Anima, X still is one of my favorites! Valefor is probably a no though since they were part of LoTA...Magus Sisters would probably be in a 24-man as well, though I could see having two of them being perma tanked while the odd one out has to be bounced back and forth like Spiny Plume.

Outside of Primals, Omega is for sure coming (and I assume during 3.x patch cycle, though I guess its possible it could be left for the 4.0 series.) Currently it seems to me the WoD will be regulated to 4-man dungeons...though my opinion may change.

[Fevelle]

Alright, makes sense. Though now I'm wondering what the next primal will be. We've covered quite a few of the major ones already, and Ravana has also show they have a willingness to make ones that would specifially be for FFXIV. Outside of the Warring Triad there doesn't seem to be many Primals to go with right now (unless they do start going with the Ivalice line.)

I'd like to see Crusader from FFVI as an Ala Mhigan primal. It would be great!

[CrimsonThunder]

If it means gear based around the Ascian Overlord look then hey why not?