What do you think of Ala Mhigo?

[Kaiser-Ace]

Unfortunetly, I suspect the liberation of Ala Mihgo won't be as 'morally grey' as some are hoping.

Here are the facts: Garlemald is opposed to the primals and trying to find a permamnent solution to them. They classify anything capable of summoning a primal as 'beastmen.' In HW, we found out their 'solution' to the primal problem was *genocide* of whoever they classified as beastmen.

And now thanks to the one-two puch of Ysalye/Shiva, and Thordan/the Knights of the Round, Garlemald now knows ordinary Eorzeans can summon primals. Take a guess as to what they are going to do with that information.

Argh, and now thinking about it, I'm suddenly worried about the Eorzeans currently living under Garlean control...I think things are going to get very ugly for them soon.

This here is why I believe, should Gaius still be alive, that he'd go rouge against the current emperor for the same reason he went rouge on Nael van Darnus when he tried to "Purify" (Read eradicate) Eorzea by dropping dalamud on them. Gaius is openly opposed to mass senseless genocide. Even stating that The Meteor Project would leave nothing to rule but ashes and ruins. Conquest can and has been done with out Genocide as the XIVth was responsible for conquering Ala Mihgo with very little blood shed involved (Compared to what a mass siege would cause). So the Emperor potentially condoning the complete annihilation of Eorzea's people would definitely be met with opposition by the former Legatus of the XIVth imperial Legion. Now, weather he lives to dispute the emperor's genocidal plans is admittedly wishful thinking at best. But I've made crazier theories that hit the nail on the head. lol

[DragonSlayer45]

I'm mixed. I love the concept art we have seen of Ala Mhigo , but the people we have encountered from Ala Mhigo save a handful of people, have been complete and utter dumbasses who defy all common sense for the sake of their homeland. I get it, you guys are patriotic and you want to reclaim what's rightfully yours, but you guys are really not helping your case with all the thievery, backstabbing, hostility and assassinations you do.

Unless the expansion gives me an excuse to put a knife through the traitors and idiots who constantly scream "For Ala Mhigo!!!" as a justification for their actions.

(This post is ironic considering I'm a Highlander, and most Highlanders seem to originate from Ala Mhigo.)

[Kaiser-Ace]

Unless the expansion gives me an excuse to put a knife through the traitors and idiots who constantly scream "For Ala Mhigo!!!" as a justification for their actions.

I'm all good with the Liberation. But for all we know radicles like Ilberd and that Monk moron from the 30-50 quest line are the reason Ala Mihgo was conquered so easily so I have MAJOR reservations about just handing them a thrice broken society to ruin all over again. At least Aymeric has the support of the people. It's just religious Zealots like from 3.1's MSQ that can't be trusted. And they're the ones we're ousting anyway. I knew the minute I landed in Ishguard after leaving Azys Lla that we'd have to forcibly remove most of the old status quo from power. I'll in the mean time be keeping a close eye on house Dzemael as they seem to have the most to lose with the new order.

[Kallera]

I love how we want to save ala mihgo, but not the ala mihgans who want it to be saved. Them being put on the sidelines of power after trying to get their case heard just seems like the political bs that would happen from war.

Or the opposite could happen and we end up displacing the current generation there, but either way I'm not expecting Eorzea to welcome its new nation near as well as Ishgard.

[DragonSlayer45]

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Well, Widargelt got better. I haven't done the Monk 50-60 quests so I don't know if he ever goes back to being a radical trying to reclaim Ala Mhigo, but he seemed to have realized the error of his ways by the end of the 50 quest.

As for Aymeric, we could be introduced to a charismatic Ala Mhigan character in the same way we were introduced to Aymeric, who was introduced fairly late and before then there weren't a lot of Ishgardian's who could vouch as "friends." I think it isn't exactly fair to single out all Ala Mhigan's as hostile radicals since we've seen from throughout A Realm Reborn that there are a lot of good-hearted people from Ala Mhigo who just want to go back home. It'll be like calling every Ishgardian a religious zealot who let the church control everything they do, when we've seen in Heavensward that's simply not the case.

As for Ilberd, I have a swarm of theories about him. One of them being if Square Enix is indeed setting up 4.0 as the Ala Mhigo expansion, I have a feeling they are setting Ilberd to be the main antagonist of that expansion and I have a strange feeling the whole plot line about summoning Rhalgr is going to resurface. He's already said there's nothing he wouldn't do to take back Ala Mhigo, and that probably includes selling his soul to becoming a primal incarnate similar to Shiva and Thordan.

Not a big fan of recycling plot lines, but I just have a feeling we haven't seen the last of the whole human becomes primal plot line yet.

[Kaiser-Ace]

As for Aymeric, we could be introduced to a charismatic Ala Mhigan character in the same way we were introduced to Aymeric, who was introduced fairly late and before then there weren't a lot of Ishgardian's who could vouch as "friends." I think it isn't exactly fair to single out all Ala Mhigan's as hostile radicals since we've seen from throughout A Realm Reborn that there are a lot of good-hearted people from Ala Mhigo who just want to go back home. It'll be like calling every Ishgardian a religious zealot who let the church control everything they do, when we've seen in Heavensward that's simply not the case.

As for Ilberd, I have a swarm of theories about him. One of them being if Square Enix is indeed setting up 4.0 as the Ala Mhigo expansion, I have a feeling they are setting Ilberd to be the main antagonist of that expansion and I have a strange feeling the whole plot line about summoning Rhalgr is going to resurface. He's already said there's nothing he wouldn't do to take back Ala Mhigo, and that probably includes selling his soul to becoming a primal incarnate similar to Shiva and Thordan.

I've not completed the lvl 50 Monk quest yet I just know from some carrier Monks I run with that it has a diffrent set of NPCs that you're aiding. The Temple of something or other. But I will agree that I'm likely not giving the Ala Mihgans a fair chance. After all, till Aymeric was introduced I though we were going to end up crashing and burning the whole place but that turned out morally grey in an extreemly realistic way. (As a lot of the polotics in the game end up) so it's just as likely that the Order of Rahlger, Temple of... Light or what ever, and The people of Little Ala Mihgo will eventually cause us to be introduced to an Ala Mihgan Aymeric that's as far away from Ilberd's ideology as Aymeric was to Thorden's.

[Atoli]

One problem I still see with the whole "freeing Ala Mhigo" deal is that all the young citizens got rounded up and indoctrinated to hate and fear the Primals, us, and everything that has to do with us, from earliest childhood on.
So even if we go there, there's a good chance half of the populace is gonna be our enemy thanks to the Garleans :x

[myahele]

The Crown Prince and last known royalty is still around and should be roughly Aymeric age. He was hidden in one of the Sect of Light Monasteries as a child prior to the order's own massacre.

If we're going by tropes, it would not surprise me if this prince is the one leading the Resistance and seeking to reclaim his and his people's Home

[Morningstar1337]

Let's be honest here: why do we need them to summon a God when you're basically a walking nuclear weapon already? Even Elidibus says you're "encroaching on the realm of the Gods."

Unless we lose our Blessing again for some reason, or we get neutered, story-wise, they can just point and shoot us and the problem will be solved. No need to let them summon.

Well there is one character from Ala Mhigo that hates us already, even if we offer to help, I think his feelings about us and Raubahn would fester into rancor and make him as unresonable and revenge-crazed as Nidhogg, but against the garleans for taking his home and the WoL, Raubahn and Lolorito for "aiding the Garleans in keeping Ala Mhigo"

If anyone is likely to reject our aid and attempt a repeat of the Rhaghr summoning, it seems to be Ilberd

[Kaiser-Ace]

Well there is one character from Ala Mhigo that hates us already, even if we offer to help, I think his feelings about us and Raubahn would fester into rancor and make him as unresonable and revenge-crazed as Nidhogg, but against the garleans for taking his home and the WoL, Raubahn and Lolorito for "aiding the Garleans in keeping Ala Mhigo"

If anyone is likely to reject our aid and attempt a repeat of the Rhaghr summoning, it seems to be Ilberd

Thus why he needs be put down like the rabid dog he is. And the rest of the Crystal Braves he's allied with too.