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    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    The resistance is gonna need either Rhalgr or like Omega or something. We'll have to go beat them and the Garleans up basically.
    Let's be honest here: why do we need them to summon a God when you're basically a walking nuclear weapon already? Even Elidibus says you're "encroaching on the realm of the Gods."

    Unless we lose our Blessing again for some reason, or we get neutered, story-wise, they can just point and shoot us and the problem will be solved. No need to let them summon.
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    I think the story risks becoming very stale if we end up with a situation where the Warrior of Light appears, shakes up the foundations of yet another nation and gets even more powerful. I want to see Ala Mhigo and Ishgard be even worse off as a consequence of intervention. Realistically speaking that's what happens when a nation's structure suddenly changes. For all the talk about bringing forth 'change' in the real world and eliminating 'corruption' quite a lot of people would suffer terribly if their government suffered a complete collapse. It's no different in a fantasy setting.

    As for Gaius? We didn't see a body, true, but...as much as I liked him I wouldn't want to see yet another character brought back from the dead. Besides - if he was written to defect and abandon his homeland and people then he'd be defanged and lose a lot of his appeal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    As for Gaius? We didn't see a body, true, but...as much as I liked him I wouldn't want to see yet another character brought back from the dead. Besides - if he was written to defect and abandon his homeland and people then he'd be defanged and lose a lot of his appeal.
    I'm not so sure. 1st off, Nanamo doesn't count as "Back From the Dead". The NPCs were calling BS on that even in the post 2.55 dialog. If he survived that'd be the first actual "Back from the Dead" character as we actually DID assume we killed him. As for the proposed betrayal I suggested, I was thinking more of a scenario like Agent Smith from The Matrix where his betrayal was as a grab for his own power not because he was a good guy. After all, the revolution is the reason him and his forces were left high and dry. And with the new Emperor supporting the idea of using Azys Lla's Warring Triad, not unlike Nael using Dalamild, Gaius would be more likely to turn on them and seek to rule Garlemauld himself since he's by and far the ONLY Legatus that actually believes in Merit over Blood Status (Which is why the Garlean "Meritocracy" is a total scam).

    I mainly want to see our (In my view) Greatest anti-thesis to be a recurring antagonist instead of a one off villain like Teledji and Nebralius. Gaius could have easily been our ally instead of the scions under different circumstances.

    Also, for those that didn't know, I liked Gaius as much as Fenral liked G'raha Tia. Everyone has an NPC that sticks with them. lol
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    Ala Mhigo itself doesn't yet interest me as much as the idea of going to a Garlean Empire controlled territory. I think my dream scenario would be an expansion based on a war with the Empire, with Ala Mhigo as the front lines, but I fear that instead the Empire will, for whatever reasons, pull out of Ala Mhigo before our arrival.
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    A true paladin... will sheathe his sword.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    Let's be honest here: why do we need them to summon a God when you're basically a walking nuclear weapon already? Even Elidibus says you're "encroaching on the realm of the Gods."

    Unless we lose our Blessing again for some reason, or we get neutered, story-wise, they can just point and shoot us and the problem will be solved. No need to let them summon.
    Well there is one character from Ala Mhigo that hates us already, even if we offer to help, I think his feelings about us and Raubahn would fester into rancor and make him as unresonable and revenge-crazed as Nidhogg, but against the garleans for taking his home and the WoL, Raubahn and Lolorito for "aiding the Garleans in keeping Ala Mhigo"

    If anyone is likely to reject our aid and attempt a repeat of the Rhaghr summoning, it seems to be Ilberd
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    Last edited by Morningstar1337; 11-24-2015 at 01:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    Well there is one character from Ala Mhigo that hates us already, even if we offer to help, I think his feelings about us and Raubahn would fester into rancor and make him as unresonable and revenge-crazed as Nidhogg, but against the garleans for taking his home and the WoL, Raubahn and Lolorito for "aiding the Garleans in keeping Ala Mhigo"

    If anyone is likely to reject our aid and attempt a repeat of the Rhaghr summoning, it seems to be Ilberd
    Thus why he needs be put down like the rabid dog he is. And the rest of the Crystal Braves he's allied with too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    Let's be honest here: why do we need them to summon a God when you're basically a walking nuclear weapon already?
    I basically imagine that sometime around 3.5 we'll get a message from Mask and Shorty that the stupid resistance has summoned Rhalgr against their advice and now he's going on a rampage. That way when we do get to the city we can fight tempered Ala Mhigans, the Garlean occupiers, and big papa Rhalgr himself. Maybe we'll have some Ascian or Garlean adviser (Midgardsormr style) with us laughing in our ear and saying stuff like "lol witness the true form of your gods jerk."

    Alternatively, Warring Triad is gonna mess something up really bad and lead us to Meracydia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    I basically imagine that sometime around 3.5 we'll get a message from Mask and Shorty that the stupid resistance has summoned Rhalgr against their advice and now he's going on a rampage. That way when we do get to the city we can fight tempered Ala Mhigans, the Garlean occupiers, and big papa Rhalgr himself. Maybe we'll have some Ascian or Garlean adviser (Midgardsormr style) with us laughing in our ear and saying stuff like "lol witness the true form of your gods jerk."

    Alternatively, Warring Triad is gonna mess something up really bad and lead us to Meracydia.
    INB4 someone in-game says "Where is your god now?" as Rhalgr rampages as God King of the new Theocracy pf Ala Mhigo
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