Regarding healers acting as DPS

[randysquirrel]

The flipside of the argument tho, is if the tank does drop then the healer rages that they didn't use enough CDs

It's much easier when the tank/healer know each other style's, i.e if the tank knows to trust the healer won't let him drop, or the healer trusts the tank to popping CDs sufficiently enough that they won't suddenly drop and so will know when to drop CS and stop dpsing.

As many others said, in instances where they don't know each other, you need to communicate, or get a feel for each other's competence. It is not the sole responsibility of the healer to keep the tank up, but a combined effort of both of them to make sure he doesn't drop.

[Nekotee]

Atomi i do understand that sooo much XD
Outside savage or extrem
There is no way a tank could lose 80% of his life in one hit even with str stuff !

PAL popping hallowed ground around 75% and a pack of 5 mob in front of him
Make me want to drop my book and rush in the pack to slap him hard !
Especially when i put my fairy right in front of him !

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There is difference between a basic CD and your ultimately survival skill XD
If a tank do not use CD he won't recieve heal 8D

[Risvertasashi]

It is not the sole responsibility of the healer to keep the tank up, but a combined effort of both of them to make sure he doesn't drop.

This actually applies to far more than minmaxing DPS in dungeons. However.... in practice, take a guess on who shoulders all the responsibility here? If a healer struggles with keeping a tank alive, no one looks at the tank.

(But have a like because there is so much truth to that principle... I just wish more people understood it)

[Immut]

I've been healing way too long to give a shit if you live or die. Sometimes I'll just let you die because I'm too lazy to heal you. I mean I COULD heal you but maybe you won't die before we kill this last trash mob. Oops I calculated wrong, now the dungeon will take 15 more seconds while I raise you.

People get real butthurt about those 15 seconds, i tell ya.

[9mileshigh]

I feel like what op's tank did was odd, it wouldn't have cost them anything to say "please don't let me drop below x% HP". Because yes, the trust between a tank and a healer is important, but it's not measured in % of health unless in anything savage/ tankbusters. For me, and for most tanks I find in df doing lvl 60 content, trust comes in the form of them relying on me to regen them properly and then Holy spam, which is DPS, but also heals cause of the stun+regen factor. And I have to trust the tank to pop his CDs. Every tank has different gear and experience- there's always those first 1-3 pulls that are sort of the testing ground where everyone stands. But imo, if no one's dying, means I adapted to the group and I am doing my job right. If there's a problem, there's /p for that so it can be discussed and we re-adapt if needed, simple as that. Goes for any level.

tl;dr - Keep doing your thing, op, because you know what you're doing and where your mp is going for an optimal run.

[Elazu]

Im sorry, as a healer you shouldn't be letting them drop below 50% like that.

You are complaining that they never communicated that you did something wrong.... well you never said im gonna dps most of the dungeon because "reasons".

You straight up weren't doing your role.

Its pretty obvious why you got the kick to be perfectly honest. Your main priority is healing, not dps no matter how gear they are. If they are topped off every fight and never dropping into the danger zone then fine throw in some dps. But your priority is keeping them up on HP.

Absolutely terrible post.

OP is correct and has been doing his job, which is supporting the party by keeping them alive AND helping out by killing stuff.

'You never said I'm gonna dps most of the dungeon'? Since when do healers need to tell people this? It's completely normal for a healer to dps and it should be encouraged.

[NamoNanamo]

It's completely normal for a healer to dps and it should be encouraged.

No. It's not completely normal.

[Rawrz]

No. It's not completely normal.

I think it is. I don't see a good healer as pure heals. We were given way too much in our toolboxes to help dps to waste it.

[Immut]

No. It's not completely normal.

The game literally tells you that it's part of your job.

[NamoNanamo]

The game literally tells you that it's part of your job.

Irrelevant. It's not the lore that tell you how to play.

I think it is. I don't see a good healer as pure heals. We were given way too much in our toolboxes to help dps to waste it.

It's your point of view, that's great. I have an another opinion.

Your "normal" isn't the same as me or someone else. So don't be a douchebag and /party to your mate.

The point isn't "normal" or not. the point is "communicate". Do you think he should dps ? Tell him
Do you feel unconfortable about your hp ? Tell him.
You don't want your healer to dps ? Tell him, don't kick him.

If you don't like their playstyle, just /party and be nice. Don't wait him to read in your mind until you are complety mad.