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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    your AoE isn't good.

    Kassatsu-Doton is better than Kassatsu-Katon, and Internal Release + Blood for Blood can make Death Blossem do more damage.
    So, do i do katon first kassatsu then doton, bfb and ir then death blossom?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PawsTheKitti123 View Post
    So, do i do katon first kassatsu then doton, bfb and ir then death blossom?
    Just to clarify, make sure to use BfB before you use the Kass'd Doton. From this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShanaShirayuki View Post
    Just to clarify, make sure to use BfB before you use the Kass'd Doton. From this.


    There's something in that link I must comment on:
    "Individual ticks of Doton will all be guaranteed crits if you use it with Kassatsu, making it one of the most potent AoE abilities in the game."

    I used to ALWAYS apply Kassatsu then Doton, but many folks told me I'm wrong, that it should always be Raiton or Fuma. That guide says I SHOULD be using Kass with Doton. I really need to stop listening to people and continue doing my own thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Berry View Post
    [/B]

    There's something in that link I must comment on:
    "Individual ticks of Doton will all be guaranteed crits if you use it with Kassatsu, making it one of the most potent AoE abilities in the game."

    I used to ALWAYS apply Kassatsu then Doton, but many folks told me I'm wrong, that it should always be Raiton or Fuma. That guide says I SHOULD be using Kass with Doton. I really need to stop listening to people and continue doing my own thing.
    Folks have been telling you about single targets where you obviously won't use Doton and thus Kassatsu Raiton/Fuma, which obviously makes no sense on an AoE pull because you won't Raiton in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Berry View Post
    [/B]

    There's something in that link I must comment on:
    "Individual ticks of Doton will all be guaranteed crits if you use it with Kassatsu, making it one of the most potent AoE abilities in the game."

    I used to ALWAYS apply Kassatsu then Doton, but many folks told me I'm wrong, that it should always be Raiton or Fuma. That guide says I SHOULD be using Kass with Doton. I really need to stop listening to people and continue doing my own thing.
    Pretty sure they're talking about single target, if they're referencing AoE pulls then they have no business playing DPS classes.
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    Last edited by ShanaShirayuki; 11-22-2015 at 12:18 PM.
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    @above conversation:

    Doton is 30 potency per tick, 8 ticks. 240 total potency.

    Raiton is 360 potency.
    Fuma Shuriken is 240 potency - and it's buffed by both poison and dancing edge to give it an effective comparative potency of 316.8.

    If you're casting Doton in ST rotations, ever, you're doing it wrong.
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    Last edited by JackFross; 11-22-2015 at 01:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShanaShirayuki View Post
    Pretty sure they're talking about single target, if they're referencing AoE pulls then they have no business playing DPS classes.
    It was during dungeons, on trash.
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