Punish DOL and Afker's in Diadem

[Reaperking386]

Kind of odd to see a topic imploring SE to punish players for playing the game as intended that hasn't been locked yet.

Mostly because I have not broken any guideline policies.

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[Bourne_Endeavor]

I won't stop gathering in df Diadem, it's the easiest way to farm crafting/gathering materias.

To be fair, the OP isn't asking you don't, but that you shouldn't be able to roll on mob loot as you aren't participating in the fight. I do not feel that's an unreasonable request.

[missybee]

Oof. I wish you would've made this sound a little less inflammatory.

I think "punish" is too strong of a word considering that gathering is a major part of The Diadem experience. I will agree completely that it is a nuisance when the goals of the party members do not align, however. I sort of proposed this elsewhere, but I'd like to see some kind of implementation that puts gatherers and combat classes into more appropriate groups. If you could queue for The Diadem as a DoL, maybe you could get an undersized party with all DoL players? Maybe DoL classes could have an easier time getting their flight points? I really don't know how it would be implemented, but I do think it's necessary.

As for the AFKers - if you leech in The Diadem, you are just the worst.

[Reaperking386]

Oof. I wish you would've made this sound a little less inflammatory.

I think "punish" is too strong of a word considering that gathering is a major part of The Diadem experience. I will agree completely that it is a nuisance when the goals of the party members do not align, however. I sort of proposed this elsewhere, but I'd like to see some kind of implementation that puts gatherers and combat classes into more appropriate groups. If you could queue for The Diadem as a DoL, maybe you could get an undersized party with all DoL players? Maybe DoL classes could have an easier time getting their flight points? I really don't know how it would be implemented, but I do think it's necessary.

As for the AFKers - if you leech in The Diadem, you are just the worst.

I agree the title seems too aggressive towards DoL it is just a term I am use to from other video game forums when it comes to taking away something or nerfing. None the less you are right and I do apologies to any DoL professionals who spend their days laboring for crafting materials.

[SchalaZeal]

It would be nice if the chests also drop DoL gear

or DoH/DoL V materia obtainable in SOME way, rather than zero or just Mutamix

[Kosmos992k]

Mostly because I have not broken any guideline policies.

• Posting that constitutes discrimination against another forum member or group (also including forming groups for the purpose of discrimination), insults, slander, libel, harassment of a group or individual.

Arguably you are, because you are asking for a form of discrimination against other players players based on their use of a DoL class in content that includes gathering nodes for DoL classes.

...and let's not forget the catch all clause;

• Taking any other actions that are deemed inappropriate by Square Enix in our sole discretion.

[Ashkendor]

I agree the title seems too aggressive towards DoL it is just a term I am use to from other video game forums when it comes to taking away something or nerfing. None the less you are right and I do apologies to any DoL professionals who spend their days laboring for crafting materials.

That was kind of the issue I was taking with it. There's nothing to "punish" DoL for as they're doing nothing wrong by going in and gathering. I don't think they should be allowed to roll on the DoW/DoM drops, though. I always pass them when I go in to gather. The party is already down at least one member, though unless the rest of the party is doing absolutely terrible damage they shouldn't have a problem getting credit on mobs. If at some point I decide to join the group fighting, I start rolling at that point. I also always queue in as DPS instead of tank/healer because I want the group to lose as little as possible as far as combat effectiveness.

AFK'ers can take a long walk off a very small island. Get off your ass and carry your own weight, seriously.

[missybee]

I agree the title seems too aggressive towards DoL it is just a term I am use to from other video game forums when it comes to taking away something or nerfing. None the less you are right and I do apologies to any DoL professionals who spend their days laboring for crafting materials.

I mean, I'm not offended. I could just see why other people would see this title and instantly fly into a rage.

Honestly, maybe SE should make The Diadem - Easy available in the DF? I mean, you get the same crafting materials no matter what difficulty you play at. I don't know. I've honestly been wracking my brain trying to think of a solution to this problem as if I am somehow going to effect a change.

What it boils down to is that it basically seems like a huge oversight on the part of the dev team. I truly hope they address some of these issues in the near future.

[Colorful]

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I think we both know full well that this suggestion doesn't fall into the same category as that rule. It's safe to assume that rule relates to "Reaperking386 is a giant butt, don't associate with them", or "Miqo'te forum posters are idiots" and not a suggestion related to the game. The title is a bad one though, you can tell a fair few people didn't read the actual thread and responded to the title.

[Reaperking386]

• Posting that constitutes discrimination against another forum member or group (also including forming groups for the purpose of discrimination), insults, slander, libel, harassment of a group or individual.

Arguably you are, because you are asking for a form of discrimination against other players players based on their use of a DoL class in content that includes gathering nodes for DoL classes.


...and let's not forget the catch all clause;

• Taking any other actions that are deemed inappropriate by Square Enix in our sole discretion.

It is for RL discrimination such as Religious views, race, sex, and sexuality choices. Asking Sqaure to equalize the loot between combat classes and DoL is not against the guidelines.

[*]Taking any other actions that are deemed inappropriate by Square Enix in our sole discretion.

By square's discretion, not yours. If square has allowed my post to continue so long then they are ok with it so long as it stays within the guidelines.