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    Ertai Spelldragon
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    Diabolos
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    Dark Knight Lv 90

    Punish DOL and Afker's in Diadem

    I am sick and tired of players constantly joining DF just to gather or afk because they know they will get the rolls on items that the rest of party are working for.

    Problem: DOL and Afker's are looting 150 - 210 items without being in combat from the party.

    Solution: Separate loot from DOL and combat classes so they both have two different loot tables. Require a player to be in combat in order to receive loot and allow DOL to loot their own chest.

    Reason: When a player afk's or gather's they handicap the party and makes it difficult for them to gain credit from killing high level mobs. This also punishes all players in that group who are not gathering and rewards players who do with the same loot table. This either leads to hostility towards the gatherer or the group eventually breaking.
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    Last edited by Reaperking386; 11-20-2015 at 12:04 AM. Reason: Clarity

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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    It would be nice if the chests also drop DoL gear
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    Leyna Crosse
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    I'm not against that idea. but really, they made the diadem so folks could do both. If you dont like it then make a PF group and SPECIFY what you are after (ie. Combat or gathering)
    Most of the people on DoL that I have seen were trying to complete objectives to get ESO before swapping back to a combat class.
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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    Wow sorry about gathering where gathering nodes clearly exist.


    Though to be fair I also don't agree on rolling for loot you don't earn (I don't roll if I don't help kill anything). I feel that could be easily fixed by tracking who damages an enemy...doesn't seem like it would be hard to implement but what do I know?
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    Alex Lenderson
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    This is honestly one of the worst ways to have done this. If you want to gather and do Diadem... what do? It is SO painfully obvious this was designed for FC/Party Finder and they just tacked on DF at the end without giving it any thought.
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    I firmly agree that a player can do what he/she likes in Diadem, but they should not receive credit from a mobs loot and same way around with combat classes. They should not get chest from DOL.
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    PF solves nothing because once they are in there is nothing you can do when a person sits AFK and rolls on loot. Sucks sadly to see other people fighting and losing gear to a person just sitting there.
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    Last edited by RukiaFae; 11-19-2015 at 03:49 PM.

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    Shuu Naranol
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    They don't punish AFKers at all, in the game in general. Even though they should. Never understood why the auto-kick is not a permanent thing.

    But isn't there a timer in actual duties that kicks you if you're not doing anything for ... idk how many minutes? o.o I could swear I've seen it somewhere - is that not in effect in Diadem?
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    Nephera Habasi
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    Hyperion
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    punish dol's for joining something they're allowed to join, great plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreathlessTao View Post
    They don't punish AFKers at all, in the game in general. Even though they should. Never understood why the auto-kick is not a permanent thing.

    But isn't there a timer in actual duties that kicks you if you're not doing anything for ... idk how many minutes? o.o I could swear I've seen it somewhere - is that not in effect in Diadem?
    It is in effect there; I had to leave for dinner so I just AFK'd for a bit (it was just me and a friend, we were testing out 2-man with our airship). I had to come back periodically to stop the timer from kicking me completely.
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