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    My best advice is : wreck shit but don't forget your tankiness. Get STR, stance-dance, but use your motherfucking defensive cooldowns accordingly, otherwise you're not worthy of the Axe. Be a Warrior.

    Some advices :

    WAR has different very good synergies between offensive and defensive abilities in his kit to increase both his tankiness AND his DPS at the same time without sacrificing anything. Read all the tooltips and figure these synergies out. I also highly recommend you to check out Xenosys Vex's guide which is full of very good and reliable informations about the job and how to properly play it. He also speaks about the different synergies in the video.

    Basic advices :

    - Keep Maim & Storm's Eye up as a priority. Use Storm's Path only if you feel that you need the 10% mitigation. Butcher's Block is both your highest damage combo AND your threat combo, so you can very easily hold aggro while doing your highest single target DPS rotation in Deliverance (Alternating Storm's Eye and Butcher's Block).

    - Use and refresh Fracture. The trait makes it pretty powerful on WAR.

    - If you need very heavy mitigation for whatever reason, don't rely on Foresight alone. It's garbage. 20% Physical defense is not 20% damage reduction at all.

    - Don't keep your stacks, the passive bonus they give is absolute garbage compared to what spending them grants you. The only GCDs where you can keep your 5 stacks without DPS loss are GCDs that don't grant stacks (Heavy Swing, Fracture, Overpower). It's then a benefit. (Refreshing Fracture with 5 Abandon stacks or using Heavy Swing with 5 Abandon stacks right before spending them on Fell Cleave and continuing your combo are both a DPS increase in the case you got your 5th stack with a combo-ender only, for example).

    - Bloodbath has the exact same cooldown as Berserk. Always use them together.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    In all actuality, though, all Fell Cleave does is trick Warriors into thinking they're DPS. In the middle of a Job Quest chain that's trying to tell them to focus on Protecting instead of Destroying XD
    Destroying your enemies before they can do any form of harm to you or your friends is the best way to protect.
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    Last edited by Freyyy; 11-20-2015 at 12:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyyy View Post
    Destroying your enemies before they can do any form of harm to you or your friends is the best way to protect.
    Not if performing the task requires that you make yourself easier to kill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    Not if performing the task requires that you make yourself easier to kill.
    Yeah, but good Warriors know when to use Defiance, when to use Deliverance, and when to stance dance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    Not if performing the task requires that you make yourself easier to kill.
    As long as you don't die, being harder to kill doesn't matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyyy View Post
    As long as you don't die, being harder to kill doesn't matter.
    That... is an exceedingly selfish mindset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    That... is an exceedingly selfish mindset.
    That's how this game works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyyy View Post
    That's how this game works.
    No, that's how too much of the game's community works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    That... is an exceedingly selfish mindset.
    As long as the healer is okay with it too, it's not selfish. It's good gameplay. I've had two regular healers as a tank. One of them eggs me on to bigger pulls, more damage, and stands around spamming holy if I don't pull big enough for him. The other freaks out if my health drops below half and prefers I do smaller, safer pulls. With the first healer I can run a dungeon in full deliverance, with the second I only stance dance on bosses. So there has to be an assessment of your healers capabilities and comfort level, whether you're in DF or a premade.

    But, truly, what I hear from all kinds of healers is so long as no one dies, it's all good. And if the tank needs more heals but they're doing more damage than the healer could in CS, that's also good. I clock around 1k easily in expert dungeons. My healer can do around 400 if dpsing. It's an easy choice as to which of us should be on which stance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    As long as the healer is okay with it too, it's not selfish. It's good gameplay. I've had two regular healers as a tank. One of them eggs me on to bigger pulls, more damage, and stands around spamming holy if I don't pull big enough for him. The other freaks out if my health drops below half and prefers I do smaller, safer pulls. With the first healer I can run a dungeon in full deliverance, with the second I only stance dance on bosses. So there has to be an assessment of your healers capabilities and comfort level, whether you're in DF or a premade.

    But, truly, what I hear from all kinds of healers is so long as no one dies, it's all good. And if the tank needs more heals but they're doing more damage than the healer could in CS, that's also good. I clock around 1k easily in expert dungeons. My healer can do around 400 if dpsing. It's an easy choice as to which of us should be on which stance.
    Exactly. As long as people recognize that they're part of a team and that everything they do affects their teammates too, playing in a purely selfish manner can be avoided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    Not if performing the task requires that you make yourself easier to kill.
    Except it doesn't make you easier to kill, really...

    Unless you're the guy who never uses CDs, that is...

    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    That... is an exceedingly selfish mindset.
    No, it's not. Because doing more dps means things die more quickly, which means less dmg taken and less healing needed. If it bothers you that SE is actually confirming the idea that WAR are the tank that makes the perfect OT, then go play a PLD or DRK.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    you're now a dps and if you try to play otherwise you'll be called out as a bad tank. meh.
    No, a bad tank is the guy who doesn't know how/when to use CDs.

    Advice:
    Learn to use your cooldowns. Cooldowns are your bread & butter. Nothing makes it easier in a dungeon (for EVERYONE) than being the tank who goes, "LOL! WHAT DAMAGE?!". If you use 2-4 CDs per pull, you'll have several more still available. Plus, chances are, half the CDs you use will be up before the next pull anyway.
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    Last edited by Ralvenom; 11-20-2015 at 06:28 AM.
    "I've been playing MMO's a long time and if there's one thing I've learned, it's that lions do not concern themselves with the opinions of sheep. Just take that little voice in your head that tells you to be tactful and understanding and shoot it...shoot it in the goddamn face." - SAO Abridged (Ep.2 | 8:35)

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