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  1. #11
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    Culfinrandir's Avatar
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    It has to be a bug or the way the programming handles fights at times. We noticed that even hammering away on mobs sometimes generated no hate. Our MNK/NIN (forgot which) was able to mount & fly half way through smacking away at a mob. That just shouldn't be possible. Most of the other team members are top level raiders so definitely know their jobs. Even when I was in Cleric Stance I couldn't get hate.

    Even on mobs we claimed we sometimes didn't get credit at all. Other team leaders in Diadem were shouting they had the same issue.
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    I'll continue the recommendation that 72 players in an area won't be beneficial to everyone. If this is the case where you're not getting credit try getting another party or two to split off and farm/zerg elsewhere.

    I don't think the game is setup to handle 72 players attacking a mob from dot limitations, game stuttering, and as stated lack of player acknowledgement. I will try and establish two farm locations when there's a full instance for future diadem runs.
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  3. #13
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    I completely agree with Dezwaan, I think the game simply can't deal with so many people on one mob. I've not seen the credit/enmity/hate issue arise when 24 people or less are on one mob - three teams, rather than nine!
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    T'erra Branford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
    I completely agree with Dezwaan, I think the game simply can't deal with so many people on one mob. I've not seen the credit/enmity/hate issue arise when 24 people or less are on one mob - three teams, rather than nine!
    I have only seen it arise when I am almost certain it is my teams fault. When I have a team with good flow, have yet to see it.
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  5. #15
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    if some of your party weren't even showing on the enmity bar that is why no drop.

    The reason is they lacked dps and one person can fail the whole team if they fail to contribute its not a bug at all btw.
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  6. #16
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    Stouter Taru
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie-Amber View Post
    if some of your party weren't even showing on the enmity bar that is why no drop.

    The reason is they lacked dps and one person can fail the whole team if they fail to contribute its not a bug at all btw.
    Scathe gets me on the enmity bar as a BLM, and I've blown through 4 AF phases without making it on when there are a ton of people there. It's not dps, it's being one of the first to tag the mob.

    But you are right that it's not a bug, it's the programming. I'm sure it was intended that way so you don't have all 9 parties zerging in one spot.
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    Asny Rak'nys
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    Saw this myself a few times and it's furstrating especially when you have the whole team there from the start and half isn't registered. No chest a few times.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    Scathe gets me on the enmity bar as a BLM, and I've blown through 4 AF phases without making it on when there are a ton of people there. It's not dps, it's being one of the first to tag the mob.

    But you are right that it's not a bug, it's the programming. I'm sure it was intended that way so you don't have all 9 parties zerging in one spot.
    That's what I meant, it's bad programming that could be argued to be a bug if they actually intended zerging to be possible.

    As far as not enough damage to be counted, I have to disagree. We were all hammering a mob, including both healers in CS, & were also the ones to 'claim' the spawn but still no credit. The rest of the team (other than me) have much of Savage down & commented they were in full deeps mode but no credit. Has to be bad design.
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  9. #19
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    Bravo Whiskey
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    Ravana
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    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
    That's what I meant, it's bad programming that could be argued to be a bug if they actually intended zerging to be possible.

    As far as not enough damage to be counted, I have to disagree. We were all hammering a mob, including both healers in CS, & were also the ones to 'claim' the spawn but still no credit. The rest of the team (other than me) have much of Savage down & commented they were in full deeps mode but no credit. Has to be bad design.
    Well that's just not true. If you did claim it (red named) you get a chest, regardless of your contribution.
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    Well that's just not true. If you did claim it (red named) you get a chest, regardless of your contribution.
    As I posted elsewhere, our tank (team leader) stated that our claims were not always resulting in a chest. Another team leader was also claiming the same in shout. I have no reason whatsoever to make it up, unless you can suggest the benefit I'd get out of doing so?
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