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    Thea Sitori
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    Scholar Lv 72
    Here is my official healer answer: You see me casting Aero III? That is worth more than your few seconds of Pacify. Use Brutal Swing oGCD in that time.

    To those who make annoying macros: Stop blasting our ears.

    Plus there is SCH Selene, and if your BRD is good, they will use Warden's Paeon on the pull.
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    Dante Huntington
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    Here is my official healer answer: You see me casting Aero III? That is worth more than your few seconds of Pacify. Use Brutal Swing oGCD in that time.

    To those who make annoying macros: Stop blasting our ears.

    Plus there is SCH Selene, and if your BRD is good, they will use Warden's Paeon on the pull.
    My only answer to this, and not to you personally poster, is that as someone who secondary mains WAR, I think I can only recall one time when a BRD gave me Warden on a pull, most other times I see them give it to a WAR, the WAR has no idea how to use that buff or they just mistime it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megido View Post
    haha, this guy

    There are weird people, noobs, and then there are weird noobs. Huntington you are the super rare one-person-a-forum weird noob, made HQ by using low grade materials.

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    Gunspec Daggerforge
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    Ultros
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Huntington View Post
    I think I can only recall one time when a BRD gave me Warden on a pull
    I thought they changed warden early on so that it didn't prevent a warrior's Berserk pacification? It's a 3 second cast, so I don't see why a bard should waste slightly more than a single GCD so that a warrior doesn't lose slightly more than a single GCD.

    But yeah, basically every class that can do something about my 5 second pacification could probably contribute MORE to DPS by doing something else at that moment. The only time I expect it is if I have a lazy healer who isn't even attempting to dps.

    If you play warrior enough, you learn to deal with that 5 seconds, and you can plan ahead.

    Edit:
    From 3.01 Patch notes
    An issue wherein the effect "Pacification", granted by the marauder ability "Berserk", could not be removed by the bard action “The Warden's Paean”.

    Guess I read that wrong when patch notes were released, I thought they were REMOVING the functionality, but they actually ADDED it. Well, since pacification from berserk is the only predictable debuff for most encounters, I guess it makes sense to throw it on the warrior. That being said, it needs to be cast AFTER berserk is activated (30 second duration for both buffs), and if I'm already wailing on an enemy, I would prefer a bard to just do damage. I don't pop berserk 3 seconds before I start attacking like some people.
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    Last edited by Gunspec; 11-18-2015 at 06:13 PM.

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    Asny Rak'nys
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Huntington View Post
    My only answer to this, and not to you personally poster, is that as someone who secondary mains WAR, I think I can only recall one time when a BRD gave me Warden on a pull, most other times I see them give it to a WAR, the WAR has no idea how to use that buff or they just mistime it.
    As a bard main I will ask war's I run with regulary when they pop beserk. When they tell me N-GCDs in I just go... ohh so warden's is useless for you at that point then. If I do see a war poping it among the first things though if we wipe I'll try and put it on them duing the pull timer.
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    Caly Umbra
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    My dps spells will more likely be more effective than those 5 seconds. If I can I will but I have a lot more things I would rather put first.
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    Avi Taro
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Huntington View Post
    My only answer to this, and not to you personally poster, is that as someone who secondary mains WAR, I think I can only recall one time when a BRD gave me Warden on a pull, most other times I see them give it to a WAR, the WAR has no idea how to use that buff or they just mistime it.
    Paean lasts 30 seconds while berserk lasts 20. That means they have a 10 second window to cast berserk after I put the shield on them. So yeah, it usually gets mistimed. The 3 second cast time also means that casting it any other time than right before pull probably isn't worth it as well. :/

    As whm, I try to dispel it if I can. It doesn't take priority over healing or other debuffs, though.
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    Last edited by Avidria; 11-19-2015 at 01:06 AM.