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  1. #101
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    Niadissa Nelhah
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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    One problem I have with diadem is that you can't kick leechers. I have lost so much 210 loot to leechers now, it's not funny. I *would* leave, but it's not fair for the legit players to lose a healer and make it harder to get loot just because someone else is leeching.
    It may have already been said, but the easiest way to combat this, is make it to where in order to roll on the loot, you have to be with in a certain range of the chest, and have done damage to the mob that dropped it. It isn't going to stop everyone, but it would stop the people that just load in and don't do anything at all.

    Another thought, would be that the mats that people gather while a DoL could come up for a roll as well? (This way it is still a team effort, want mats, protect your DoL's). Not sure how this one would work out in the long run though.

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  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niadissa View Post
    It may have already been said, but the easiest way to combat this, is make it to where in order to roll on the loot, you have to be with in a certain range of the chest, and have done damage to the mob that dropped it. It isn't going to stop everyone, but it would stop the people that just load in and don't do anything at all.

    Another thought, would be that the mats that people gather while a DoL could come up for a roll as well? (This way it is still a team effort, want mats, protect your DoL's). Not sure how this one would work out in the long run though.

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    I have suggested numerous times that any mats gathered should go to the loot table.


    The gatherers don't seem to consider this fair...

    For some reason they seem to think it is fair that they lot on any combat gear that drops.

    I mean, it's not like they have a bias or anything, right?...



    On a more serious note, I still like my idea of having to fight through a cave to a node, and gathering that node spawns a star rank.
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  3. #103
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakuohsama View Post
    Endless Ques in Roulletes, party finder full with Diadem groups, you get Esoteric marks and you can actually get 210 Gear out of it even when the stats are random.

    Basicly all you can do all day is Diadem, cause its the best option.
    The only thing you cant get from there is a weapon... but relic weapons are on the way so who cares..
    Farming Materia never was so easy.

    Diadem offers way to much for almost no effort at all and makes Roulletes and for some people even raiding obsolete.
    Its great that people have something to do now.. but everything in one mode?
    Thats just my opinion..


    #HatersgonnaHate
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  4. #104
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    Blitz Ace
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    I myself pass on diadem, don't see how its game breaking. Stats can be epic. they can we so bad you don't even wanna trade em in for spoils.
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  5. #105
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    Will Brannigan
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Huh, I have yet to ever get my hands on that so called "better than savage gear", despite playing Diadem since launch. Huh....
    My condolences on being slightly unlucky during the one week since the patch. There's someone in my company who has now gotten his hands on a tank body and bard belt that match or beat anything available from tomestones and raids. The belt we got yesterday in about an hour of killing rank IIIs. The stats are:

    33 acc
    26 crit
    21 det
    26 skill speed

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/6438/ (he's on bard at the time of posting)

    I guess a huge herd of triceratops might be about as difficult as A2S if there was some sort of bomb/vehicle mechanic and an enrage timer.

    My body (24 acc, 34 crit, 85 speed) was also an upgrade from Creed since I haven't gotten a Gordian body to drop yet and I was only replacing excess parry and accuracy.
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    Last edited by Brannigan; 11-19-2015 at 06:01 AM.

  6. #106
    Player Iagainsti's Avatar
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
    I have suggested numerous times that any mats gathered should go to the loot table.



    While I can tell you're being toxic and facetious, you make a valid point. Coming from someone who jumps on his Miner for the last 20 mins of every Diadem I've been in so far, I wouldn't mind if my Titanium ore etc. were loot rolled on per node, my Steel Spoils tho.. no dice.
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post


    While I can tell you're being toxic and facetious, you make a valid point. Coming from someone who jumps on his Miner for the last 20 mins of every Diadem I've been in so far, I wouldn't mind if my Titanium ore etc. were loot rolled on per node, my Steel Spoils tho.. no dice.
    Even here, a gatherer who agrees with the premise...
    "You can roll on it, as long as it's not the stuff I want."

    Your steel spoils are more valuble to you than a 210 piece of gear is to the battle class? All in or all out is the only fair way. Personally I prefer the "All out", as it also deters afk rollers.

    As for my "toxic" behaviour, I hardly consider posting habit critisism from someone whos posts are largely a Dazed and Confused gif and nothing more to be worthwile.
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    Last edited by Whiteroom; 11-19-2015 at 07:12 AM.

  8. #108
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    Will Brannigan
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    vs Gordian

    -94 crit
    +15 acc
    +51 det
    +82 speed

    One comes from Living Liquid, one comes from a guy whose strongest attack can be defeated by walking slightly downhill.


    Bonus, friend's body:

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  9. #109
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    Atemi'a Arecis
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    Leviathan
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Hakuohsama View Post
    Endless Ques in Roulletes, party finder full with Diadem groups, you get Esoteric marks and you can actually get 210 Gear out of it even when the stats are random.

    Basically all you can do all day is Diadem, cause its the best option.
    The only thing you cant get from there is a weapon... but relic weapons are on the way so who cares..
    Farming Materia never was so easy.

    Diadem offers way to much for almost no effort at all and makes Roulletes and for some people even raiding obsolete.
    Its great that people have something to do now.. but everything in one mode?
    Thats just my opinion..
    It's a boost in ilvl so that people who are struggling with Gordias still have a better chance. For the vast majority of the player base it will just be nothing, as they will use this gear to clear their daily roulette that they were finishing already. It's a great addition, honestly. And the gear itself doesn't carry any sort of status or importance because it's easy to get.
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  10. #110
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    Altanas Aidendale
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Diadem would be good if the concept of an exploratory 'mission' actually meant something.

    You shouldn't be able to just grind mobs in one camp, that defies the concept of exploration.

    Each party in the instance should have different pools of objectives. When objectives are cleared it shouldn't just complete and give you esoterics, a fresh pool of objectives should appear. Completion of each set of objectives should result in the NM spawning.

    It might sound formulaic but its definitely less boring than the camp and grind from FF11 that somehow snuck in.
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