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  1. #81
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    Marxam's Avatar
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akuryu View Post
    Patch is days old. Check back in a month and see how full the game is. Diadem is about as fun as punching the training dummy for 90 mins.
    this guy gets it. If anything its a morale booster to help get you "geared" mentally as some of those star ranks can really hurt (I'm look at you dino island). However I do feel that it can easily surpass capped/raid gear easily. I saw a mistbreak scouting pants with 73 acc/det and 34 crit. If that's not OP idk what is and it can also be even better than that.

    The only issue I have with Diadem is that now it will be even harder to differentiate between legitimate good players who want to exceed their current bis for endgame, with players who just want enough to get by in the game.
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    Last edited by Marxam; 11-17-2015 at 04:01 AM.

  2. #82
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Harder? Gear should never be an indicator of skill.
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  3. #83
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    Lyneya Rose
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    I personally enjoy it. Kind of feels like Dynamis from FFXI which I highly enjoyed running twice a week. Brings back some good memories from that game. And I want a winged pony... Enough said.
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  4. #84
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    The only issue I have with Diadem is that now it will be even harder to differentiate between legitimate good players who want to exceed their current bis for endgame, with players who just want enough to get by in the game.
    No...it will still be blatantly obvious. Slightly better secondaries will not bring baddies even close to good players.
    Heck, even Echo +20% which is like a 40 ilvl increase doesn't make a difference.
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  5. #85
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    silentwindfr's Avatar
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    Florence Leduc
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    The only issue I have with Diadem is that now it will be even harder to differentiate between legitimate good players who want to exceed their current bis for endgame, with players who just want enough to get by in the game.
    *tilt head* the good player will have alexander savage loot, that how you differenciate them.... not because they are in i210.

    people seems to forget that is the best way to differenciate player. not because you have the same ilevel.

    plus in 3 month this loot will not be the best anymore then i don't see why people complain about it that much.

    ps: a good player don't care what the other get... he only focus on clean what he want to clean. if he have time to be jealous of what the other have it's not a good player, it's a player that want a bragging right that not the same.

    pss: oh one last thing, being good player is not tie to complet savage too, complet savage means you do have a team for do it or are dedicated to do it.
    i know good player that are litterally not interested by the raid of FF14, why? because it's toxic.... plus when you have done years of raiding, you are looking for something that will be new and challenging, it's not always raiding!
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    pss: oh one last thing, being good player is not tie to complet savage too, complet savage means you do have a team for do it or are dedicated to do it.
    i know good player that are litterally not interested by the raid of FF14, why? because it's toxic.... plus when you have done years of raiding, you are looking for something that will be new and challenging, it's not always raiding!
    Just wanted to emphasize what this guy said here. There's a lot of truth in this.
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  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakuohsama View Post
    Diadem offers way to much for almost no effort at all and makes Roulletes and for some people even raiding obsolete.

    You must have not been around long.

    Diadem is just hunts 2.0

    People were in full upgraded gear a week after hunts released back in 2.X

    Not to mention CT/VA giving a max ilvl drop a week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    Newer players to MMO games will likely draw from their experiences playing FPS games, GTA, Dragon Age, Skyrim, etc.. and they will evaluate a MMO based on that criteria. But other online games (and offline RPGs) are designed to be picked up, played for maybe 5 months and then abandoned for when the next big game comes along. A Veteran MMO gamer knows that the experience of the game is stretched out over years, and if crafted properly, it leaves players with some of the best gaming experiences to be found anywhere.
    Quote Originally Posted by kazeandi View Post
    This is the problem most content is solo and you get your group action from a cross-server queueing tool. This is not like older MMOs where servers developed real communities. It's more like MacDonald's Drive-Thru, where you queue up, do your run, then never meet those people again.

  8. #88
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Diadem is somewhat similar to Dynamis and its something that some FFXI players wanted. If you didn't play FFXI Dynamis was killing trash mobs for a couple hours in hopes of getting some low droprate items, this is basically what we do in Diadem. A lot of FFXI players kept asking for this type of content.

    Personally killing trash mobs for 2 hours has never been fun I didn't enjoy it in FFXI either.
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  9. #89
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    T'erra Branford
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Tbh, I'm meeting a lot of people on my server from doing Diadem runs. The need to get away from terrible DF goups has lead me set up some oganized PF runs, which means good runs where we can have a laugh. It's been good that way.

    The great gear is rare enough that most of what you get is place holders anyway. It is a grind and I can see it getting boring quick. Probably going to need to run it for relic at some point though.

    Aren't secondaries far less valueble at level 60 anyways? So it's not like any piece can blow other pieces out of the water.
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  10. #90
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarzak View Post
    You must have not been around long.

    Diadem is just hunts 2.0

    People were in full upgraded gear a week after hunts released back in 2.X

    Not to mention CT/VA giving a max ilvl drop a week.
    The difference is hunts is gated by time while Diadem is basically Atma relics pre nerf; sure, you COULD get the best gear in a fair amount of time, but the majority won't and will probably waste a lot of time trying to anyway (myself included) because of fickle RNG. RNG for progression is never good or fast.
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