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  1. #11
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    Sleigh's Avatar
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    Philia Felice
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Riki_Namu View Post
    Im sorry, as a healer you shouldn't be letting them drop below 50% like that. It's stressful on a tank because they dont know if you just suck or dont know what you are doing.
    AST can heal a low level tank's 25% HP tank up in about .5 seconds; turn off Cleric Stance, Essential Dignity which fully heals the tank, turn Cleric Stance back on and continue doing the group's job, killing things. A group of mobs in Copperbell can't even do 25% of a tank's HP in 5 seconds unless he's undergeared as hell.

    OP just suck it up. They were noobs who think A HEALER MUST HEAL - let them have their 30 minute Copperbells.
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    Lucille Lifeblossom
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Riki_Namu View Post
    Im sorry, as a healer you shouldn't be letting them drop below 50% like that. It's stressful on a tank because they dont know if you just suck or dont know what you are doing.
    Essential Dignity. I don't think you know what it does.
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  3. #13
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    Juan Spellsinger
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    Leviathan
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    Don't worry about it I do it all the time. Don't mind the tank I do it all the time myself trust me u are not a try healer if you don't dps some times trust me I have all healers maxx and it fills really good wen u are able to keep your team alive and heal.
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Kicking someone without a word throughout the whole dungeon is a reportable offense, I recommend opening a ticket for a GM in game. Coulda just been them being bored and feeling like picking on you for all we know.
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    Sora Kysuke
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    It's really weird. Back in 2.0, when I felt comfortable enough to DPS on the regular, I could feel the animosity from tanks and probably the DPS too. I made a thread several months back about the nagging difference in commendations I'd receive that I assumed were based on my performance and that variables aside, I was more well received by my party when I full healed in both compliments and commendations by the tank and at least one DPS than when I choose to support DPS when I felt it was appropriate for me to do so. I've been partied with passive aggressive tanks in the past too where some would increase their pull size or stop using defensive cooldowns, as I could only notice in their rapid change in the damage they would take as we made progress.

    The arguments in the forums about healer DPS, SCH in particular, are in stark contrast to what actually goes on when we queue up in DF with random people that have an assumption performing both tasks is expected and demanded when it's not. Which is why I push for people to just do it at their own discretion.

    On the flip side in 3.0, or specifically with 3.1 dungeons, they are pretty easy with a lot of down time for healers when healing exclusively isn't really necessary.
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    Last edited by Blessedbythesun; 11-16-2015 at 09:01 AM.

  6. #16
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    SerosJourney's Avatar
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    Sero Blu
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riki_Namu View Post
    Im sorry, as a healer you shouldn't be letting them drop below 50% like that. It's stressful on a tank because they dont know if you just suck or dont know what you are doing.
    I think that this is just not true....

    stressfull for tanks? maybe....
    But I (as a SCH myself) like to support DPS, let the fairy do her work and let the Tank drop....But just because I feel confident enough to heal him up suddenly...so if he falls to 1% and I can save him from death....I did my job....and I did it well!
    If I could not! Then you're welcome to flame me ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by SerosJourney View Post
    I think that this is just not true....

    stressfull for tanks? maybe....
    But I (as a SCH myself) like to support DPS, let the fairy do her work and let the Tank drop....But just because I feel confident enough to heal him up suddenly...so if he falls to 1% and I can save him from death....I did my job....and I did it well!
    If I could not! Then you're welcome to flame me ^^
    I don't think people who don't play healers understand how stressful the job is. But each job has it's own stresses. Tanks need to trust their healers to make the proper decisions.
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  8. #18
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    Delferia Seule
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Riki_Namu View Post
    You straight up weren't doing your role. That would be like a tank tanking in a dps stanece not holding threat well and taking more damage making you sweat because you have to constantly heal him while getting slapped in the face by adds he couldn't keep control of
    It's more like a tank going into dps stance, maintaining threat on all the mobs, and smartly using cooldowns to mitigate damage outside of tank stance. It's essentially free dps that is well within the limits of the role.

    AST in particular can often heal an entire pull at low level with a well timed Essential Dignity, allowing them to dps without one actual GCD of healing. If a tank is feeling stressed out in Copperbell with an AST healer chock full of instant cast heals, they have a long ways to go to steel their nerves for dungeons with trash and bosses that actually inflict significant damage.
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    Rimini Rie
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    I just went to arboretum with ahealer who did 0 dps despite having ravana weapon. Believe me this is a lot worse than having a healer who drops the tank accidentally while dpsing. Just suck it up as everyone says and don't stop dpsing. And of course don't listen to some people who say you should keep the tank more than 50% all the time, it's ridiculous.
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    Esmond Rainer
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    Odin
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Riki_Namu View Post
    Im sorry, as a healer you shouldn't be letting them drop below 50% like that. It's stressful on a tank because they dont know if you just suck or dont know what you are doing.
    I think this part is mostly the reason why you get kicked. From what i read from your post, you didn't heal at all, during mobs and also between pulls. While the tank was not in danger, they might see it as you are not knowing your role. If you want to do it like that again, i suggest tell them before that you will dps most of the time and it's fine not to heal much during trash, or just throw some heal there even if it is not really needed, or even stoneskin him right before the last mob dies etc.

    IMO it's not about you dpsing, it's for letting your tank know you can be trusted or not. He just didn't trust you as his healer.
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    Last edited by Normalizer; 11-16-2015 at 10:02 AM.

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