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  1. #41
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    Vlady's Avatar
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    Fomortis Vulen
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Nah. Huge imbalances between dps and tank/healers now. All three healers and tanks minus paladin are easily the most played jobs now. Did a random search for white mages level by level after forty and easily dar the job out number every other job minus bard
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  2. #42
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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    As someone who mains tank but knows the plight of DPS queues, I'm hoping tanks start getting lumbered with 48 hour queues. Let the tanks feel the pain of those god-awful queue times. Might also help teach a bit of humility.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  3. #43
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    Khalith Mateo
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    Mateus
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Blasphemy I say! I am a tank, I shouldn't have to wait more than five seconds! I am not some dps peasant that should have to wait on queues! :P
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  4. #44
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    Tobias Shadowmane
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    Excalibur
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    So I'm not the only one. Considering there's only 1 tank per party, it looks like a good time to test that exp adjustment by leveling a DPS ten levels to sixty.
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  5. #45
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    Florence Leduc
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 90
    well 3 tank, 6 healer and 15 dps are needed then that quite normal that tank queue is long.
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  6. #46
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    Kyah Almasy
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Tanks are finally feeling our pain
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  7. #47
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    Alex Lenderson
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    Zalera
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    Conjurer Lv 62
    I dislike the way they do it. It is like they gave up on having an appropriate ratio of tank/dps/healer in the game. There are a number of ways to fix it.

    1. Adventure in need be a bigger bonus (tomestones?)
    2. Create feedback loops for DPS to realize when they are failing. Right now DPS is the haven for the people who don't want others to realize they are bad. Tanks know they are bad if they can't maintain hate. Healers know they are bad if they can't heal tank. DPS know they are better... when dungeons are a little slower? Put some DPS checks in earlier in the game and divide the party so the DPS in question (and others) will know if they are doing their job poorly.
    3. Create more drops for tanks (again incentive to play the tank class)
    4. Special mounts for completing x number of raids/dungeons with adventure in need bonus.
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  8. #48
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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex_Lenderson View Post
    I dislike the way they do it. It is like they gave up on having an appropriate ratio of tank/dps/healer in the game. There are a number of ways to fix it.

    1. Adventure in need be a bigger bonus (tomestones?)
    2. Create feedback loops for DPS to realize when they are failing. Right now DPS is the haven for the people who don't want others to realize they are bad. Tanks know they are bad if they can't maintain hate. Healers know they are bad if they can't heal tank. DPS know they are better... when dungeons are a little slower? Put some DPS checks in earlier in the game and divide the party so the DPS in question (and others) will know if they are doing their job poorly.
    3. Create more drops for tanks (again incentive to play the tank class)
    4. Special mounts for completing x number of raids/dungeons with adventure in need bonus.
    They've tried that, tanks and healers just get told to do more DPS. They need to put buffs on the monsters that means they're immune to ALL damage from tanks (GLA/PLD/MRD/WAR/DRK, yes I've included the base classes to avoid the playerbase saying "Do this as your base class") as well as healers (CNJ/WHM/ACN/SCH/AST, included ACN to avoid SCHs being told to queue as their DPS base class to ensure they can do damage). That combined with strict DPS checks will mean the DPS cannot blame the healers or tanks for lack of DPS.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  9. #49
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    Twilite's Avatar
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    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    Blasphemy I say! I am a tank, I shouldn't have to wait more than five seconds! I am not some dps peasant that should have to wait on queues! :P
    Actually..not even DPS should have to wait on queues.
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  10. #50
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    Mirn Armaya
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    Shiva
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    As someone who mains tank but knows the plight of DPS queues, I'm hoping tanks start getting lumbered with 48 hour queues. Let the tanks feel the pain of those god-awful queue times. Might also help teach a bit of humility.
    There's no need to make fun or being spiteful of each role that deals with longer queue times. In all cases it sucks.
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