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  1. #61
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    Quesse's Avatar
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    Quesse Mithril
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    Ok with gender locked gear, in fact I welcome it.

    This is not real life.

    You're upset? Use a Fantasia and move on.
    (6)

  2. #62
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    Tsuga's Avatar
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    Tsuga Lem
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    The bigotry in these threads is palpable.

    Quote Originally Posted by giantslayer View Post
    Males wearing Minfilia's outfit would be the worst thing to happen to Final Fantasy since Kuja from FF9.
    Yeah, just like how men being able to dress as snowmen, reindeer, moogles, ghosts, pumpkin-heads, in subligar, as speedo-clad swimmers and in various states of undress is totally ruining this game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quesse View Post
    Ok with gender locked gear, in fact I welcome it.

    This is not real life.

    You're upset? Use a Fantasia and move on.
    How do other people's glamour choices affect you? You don't want to see it? It's not about you. It's not your business. Glamour options are there for fun, and for you to create the character you're happy with. You don't have any say in what other people glamour. If you don't want to wear gear that you feel is not for you, don't wear it! It's really quite easy.

    If people wanna run around in their undies, they can run around in their undies. If people want to combine clashing colors in their glamour, they can combine clashing colors in their glamour. But people wanting to dress in clothes that society, and in this instance, SE, deems "gender locked"? That's just unacceptable.

    You don't have the right to tell people what they can or cannot wear any more than they have the right to tell you what you can or cannot wear. Grow up.
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    Last edited by Tsuga; 11-14-2015 at 10:04 AM.

  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesse View Post
    Ok with gender locked gear, in fact I welcome it.

    This is not real life.

    You're upset? Use a Fantasia and move on.
    In case you missed the memo, we don't actually want to be girls. We want to wear more items of clothing. There's a rather large difference between those two things.

    Not to mention the fact that at the moment, female characters are favoured. You don't care because you play a female character, and for some reason prefer to make fun of people with an ill-considered dig dozens of others have already made instead of simply ignoring the clearly-titled threads about the topic. Ok. But what if they start favouring Lalafell and don't bother making gear for all of the races? What if the balance swings the other way and you have to pay real-life money to switch to playing as a guy to get some item you'd like which is needlessly locked? It's not fair, and people have every right to say so.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Since the intention is to sell something that let's you cosplay as the original NPC, they probably did not consider that people would want to dye the gear items, since it immediately detracts from the link to the original character.
    But that's not what they're generally for. We're not pretending to be Minfilia or Thancred, or whoever. We're just dressing in the same styles they wear. Just like when my character, Y'kayah, dresses like Snow from FFXIII, he isn't pretending to be Snow (a person he's never met or even heard of). He's just wearing a cool looking trenchcoat he was given by a visiting lady he fought alongside a few times.

    Lorewise, the fact that Minfilia wears what she does indicates that the tailors of Eorzea make clothes in that style, and it shouldn't be too difficult for other people to get similar outfits. Gameplay-wise, when players see an outfit that looks cool, they'll often want similar outfits for themselves. It's about getting that cool looking style they saw on someone else, not about pretending to be that someone else. And if the "someone" whom they saw it on is an iconic NPC, then it really helps if they can dye it or combine it piecemeal with other gear, not only to achieve a look they like better, but also to be able to avoid looking too much like that iconic NPC it was designed from.

    All of these sets should be unisex, dyable, and divided into separate chest/legs/hands/feet pieces. The fact that they aren't is just sloppy and lazy.
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magis View Post
    Actually no. All races except lalafell can use the hyur model scaled to a different height. This is why Miqo'te lost their butts cause they are actually using the hyur model scaled by the engine to fit the different dimensions.
    Ok, I stand corrected on the numbers, but the main point remains the same. If they could adapt it once to fit lalafell women, then they can adapt it once more to fit men of the other races (or possibly twice more if Roegadyn are a third model on the male side).
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  6. #66
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    We must all stand together and unite as one!

    Everybody now, let's all join hands and ascend ourselves in the light of our almighty paragon--

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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    Ok, I stand corrected on the numbers, but the main point remains the same. If they could adapt it once to fit lalafell women, then they can adapt it once more to fit men of the other races (or possibly twice more if Roegadyn are a third model on the male side).
    Yes they could have, but they didn't because that would cut into their profits. This is nothing to do with gender or equality or w.e, and all has to do with that sweet sweet green.

    But hey, I was saying the cash shop was dumb since it's inception /shrug.
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  8. #68
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    Men should wear men's stuff and women should wear women's. You want more men's stuff ask for it. You want to cross dress, do it in real life. The dev's made the decision clearly based on Japanese culture where alternative lifestyles are not a norm. They already made heavy concessions by turning marriage into eternal bonding (which I'm ok with) but the endless whining about this stuff is out of control. You're gay, you're proud, fine we get it. I don't superimpose my straightness on you so please stop typing to do that with your lifestyle to me. If this isn't about a lifestyle and actually about male options then ask for that outright instead this nonsense about men being able to wear Minfilia's outfit.
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  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckb View Post
    You're gay, you're proud, fine we get it. I don't superimpose my straightness on you so please stop typing to do that with your lifestyle to me. If this isn't about a lifestyle and actually about male options then ask for that outright instead this nonsense about men being able to wear Minfilia's outfit.
    By saying male characters cannot wear dresses, isn't that exactly what you're doing? Nobody is forcing a dress on you, or telling you that you cannot wear pants. You are in fact doing the opposite though.
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    Last edited by Akuryu; 11-17-2015 at 04:04 AM.

  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckb View Post
    Men should wear men's stuff and women should wear women's. You want more men's stuff ask for it. You want to cross dress, do it in real life. The dev's made the decision clearly based on Japanese culture where alternative lifestyles are not a norm. They already made heavy concessions by turning marriage into eternal bonding (which I'm ok with) but the endless whining about this stuff is out of control. You're gay, you're proud, fine we get it. I don't superimpose my straightness on you so please stop typing to do that with your lifestyle to me. If this isn't about a lifestyle and actually about male options then ask for that outright instead this nonsense about men being able to wear Minfilia's outfit.
    Sexuality has little to nothing to do with how people choose to dress. Stop trying to stir up the homophobes.
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    In my heart, I'll always be a Red Mage.

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