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  1. #41
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    NatSilverguard's Avatar
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    Nat Silverguard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    Don't confuse what real people will wear on the street in the real world with what characters in a fantasy video game might wear. SE has never had any problem with flamboyantly dressed male characters in previous FF games.
    wtf dude are you blind? my next sentence (that you conveniently left out) is similar ( male CNJ robes) to what you are saying. :|
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  2. #42
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    Laerune's Avatar
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    I have said before and will always continue, SE should go back to how they used to do and make items uni-sex. The items before used to be uni-sex with a male and female option, this was the best and this was the reason that people commended SE for their fair treatment of both genders. Males were not only brutish warriors and females had the option to go for a tomboyish route. Just like how there are males who love to sex up their female avatars, there are females/straight guys/gay guys who love to make to outfit their male character in a sexy way. Sadly SE does not agree with this, which is odd, because in the past these type of armours were released with no problem.

    @players with female avatars: I have to agree with the OP, but I find only fair that they release a manfilia outfit aswell. Give males the hairstyle and change the chest part and its a male version. SE can do this, but they choose not to do this, because of time/money/effort etc. I think this is a good eye-opener for the players who were unaware that male have been facing this issue for a long time and to be honest, I think this is a good lesson for players with female avatars who always come to these type of threads and complain that players with male avatars need to use a fantasia and stop complainng. Now you know how the other side feels.

    To the players who dislike seeing males in "girly" outfit, just like in real life they have the option to IGNORE IT!. When you see someone in a outfit in real life that you do not approve, are you going to walk to them and tell them to change their outfit? NO! You IGNORE IT and MOVE ON!. So what if SE releases some "sexy feminine" outfit for male avatars, the option is there for others and you to dress up in them, if you dislike it, IGNORE! and MOVE ON!

    @SE go back to how it used to be, manly and female outfits for both genders and release outfits in uni-sex only or give both genders equal amount of glamour options per patch or do not release anything at all.
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  3. #43
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    Magis's Avatar
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    Magis Luagis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    If that was true, they'd be race as well as gender locked. There were five newly modeled versions of each piece, because the original NPC was only one of the six races. If they can adjust them to fit all races, then they can adjust them to fit both genders of all races.
    Actually no. All races except lalafell can use the hyur model scaled to a different height. This is why Miqo'te lost their butts cause they are actually using the hyur model scaled by the engine to fit the different dimensions.
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    Last edited by Magis; 11-12-2015 at 11:48 PM.

  4. #44
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    Magis Luagis
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    And since I can't edit on the phone:

    The only model that got made for Minfilia's item was the lalafell one due to their proportions.

    No, they cann't adjust them to fit the other gender because the actual mesh structure is different. Different shoulder and chest characteristics that would have to manually be modified (like the lalafell version) vs just a mathematical scale operation on the whole or part of the model.
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    Last edited by Magis; 11-12-2015 at 11:47 PM.

  5. #45
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    Adore Mi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukha View Post
    Basic logic and also opening your eyes and looking at the avatars and names of the people complaining would tell you that it's not the same people making the complaints?
    Basic logic should have told you my comment was not directed at anyone SPECIFIC, but the complaining population as a whole. Next time, I'll draw you a picture.
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  6. #46
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    For my part, since I've followed the story up now, I find it great that they locked the Story-Driven characters sets to be exclusive to their gender.

    I don't want to see a male dressed as Minfillia.

    Even if on a female, a 'male' look like Thancred would do, I'm still happy they chose not to.

    Gives me a sense of who's who in the game. And the unique feeling.

    In an MMO, seeing everyone looking the same, is super bland for me..

    Like others said it here and on other threads, if you love the specific gear, fantasia is your friend.

    Else, ask SE to created a third gender for every race.

    Now, just like our regular gear, it should have been multiple parts, but that's another thing. (Maybe doing so they save on Data?)
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    Last edited by KingOfAbyss; 11-13-2015 at 12:10 AM.

  7. #47
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    Mide Uyagir
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    WOW, the whining never stops, does it? For months, the forum has been subjected to countless threads crying about males having less glamour choices than females. So, SE makes a change and adds a bunch of male only sets for purchase (as well as some female only too), and now you're crying because they're not unisex?
    Actually, what the bulk of people have been wanting are less gender-locked costumes overall. More gender-restricted costumes is not the answer.
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  8. #48
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    Skadi Felis
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    It should be no problem to create gear for both genders that change the appearance depend of the charcter's gender, like many 1.0 gears (colliseum set as an example).

    The problem is that Minfillia's gear will not look like Minfillia's gear on a male, but like a gear that look just similar to Minfillia's gear. Men will never get a wonder-bra in this game.
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    Last edited by Felis; 11-13-2015 at 12:09 AM.

  9. #49
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    I don't know why they didn't include Louisoix's outfit and hairstyle

    Though I am not surprised that I see me Minifilia's walking around than the others ... but then again the others are pretty meh
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    Last edited by myahele; 11-13-2015 at 02:57 AM.

  10. #50
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    Colette Pascal
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    Males wearing Minfilia's outfit would be the worst thing to happen to Final Fantasy since Kuja from FF9.
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