Is it unreasonable to seek people at the part of a fight as you are?

[Kit-Kat]

Ok so OP says they learn quickly and was easy to pick up on the charges but another person comes along and says they a quick learner like you but it "nope go find a different party" that is pretty sad especially since content not been out that long. I will have to go on the side of yes it unreasonable.

Bad experiences from the past maybe? probably can't trust anymore. People tend to lie often just to get in parties desperatedly, then hours pass by and you're still wiping in the same phase when you already made progress through it and would like to be progressing on another phase. If it was me personally, I wouldn't trust those, had enough of "I've done the whole fight but never got a win", "I learn quick", "This is an alt and I've already beating this fight", which result on wiping on the first phase and obviously not knowing what's going on in the fight.

[Eidolon]

Bad experiences from the past maybe? probably can't trust anymore. People tend to lie often just to get in parties desperatedly, then hours pass by and you're still wiping in the same phase when you already made progress through it and would like to be progressing on another phase. If it was me personally, I wouldn't trust those, had enough of "I've done the whole fight but never got a win", "I learn quick", "This is an alt and I've already beating this fight", which result on wiping on the first phase and obviously not knowing what's going on in the fight.

Also dont' forget that for the party where I learned charges, it was a learning party from ground zero I had created. I didn't join any mid-progression parties for it. >_> That's why it's frustrating personally, since I put in effort to get it done.

[SooChe]

I like you op. You were nice in your speech, you have your rights to play the game to progress at your own pace. You even took the initiative to set up a pf. Please do not let those leeches leech on you. They should create their own practice party.

And hell, u had the responsibility to make sure the attempt is beneficial to the 7 other players who signed up honestly.

[Lexia]

Bad experiences from the past maybe? probably can't trust anymore. People tend to lie often just to get in parties desperatedly, then hours pass by and you're still wiping in the same phase when you already made progress through it and would like to be progressing on another phase. If it was me personally, I wouldn't trust those, had enough of "I've done the whole fight but never got a win", "I learn quick", "This is an alt and I've already beating this fight", which result on wiping on the first phase and obviously not knowing what's going on in the fight.

Well that just it can't trust anyone, they were up front about it. OP could always gotten people that did lie and say they have exp and not really have any.

[Alsar]

It's just a fact that you won't ever progress if you're constantly having to bring in new people who haven't progressed any. Every time you make progress and someone leaves and a new person joins who hasn't progressed, it pulls the group back to square one.

Nothing is stopping new people from making a PF themselves for new people. It's unrealistic to expect everyone to be willing to take 2 steps back for every one step forward. And as great as it is for everyone to be able and willing to stay until the duty is complete and everyone knows what they're doing and is well practiced, PFs are not statics. People are PF pickups and will come and go.

[FunkYeahDragons]

Making all this drama irrelevant is the fact that this is the ideal time to gain experience, anyone can create a party, and that whatever server you're on there's more than enough people who aren't pants-on-head stupid to whip up a group.

But for every complaint here, I'll swoop in and take one for myself while the pickings are still good... and then we'll see how scarce things really get.

[Seryl199]

Yes you are right to expect ppl to be at the same level as u but make a static for that not party finder a day into the new content you should have expected this kind of response from ppl...

I got home from work mad cause soon as I updated and logged in all I saw was meteor phase, um this was same day lol I mean give the content a couple of days to breathe before you start expecting to much or make a progression static..I also saw ridiculous ilvls like 208 and 210 like really, now that I've gotten pretty far in the fight u can easily do it in 190 gear -_-

What if someone else had a heavy work load that week after patch day, or long classes, planned family engagements? Maybe patch day was their one day to do as much as they could. Their motivations mean nothing to you. If the OP wants to put in more time waiting to know they will get a group with the appropriate amount of experience for each phase, why should they not do exactly that? They are pursuing their own goals, and if your goals don't line up with their intensive schedule, pursue them on your terms.

[LordLonghammer]

Original Post snip.

Hey man, don't worry they spent the whole day harassing me the second day the patch came out for having up a Enrage / Clear only group. Its not my fault I just wanted to take care of business and get it over with. It's early in the content patch, you want to get yours done then later you can go back and help teach people when you've gotten yourself taken care of is how I look at it.

[NekoGenesis]

The responses on this thread are unfortunately atypical of the NA community vs what the JP community do, and also why my heart sinks as it's little things like this that make people believe that the general NA community will never get any better.

No, it is not "unreasonable" or whatever to ask for people who have been to phase 5, 6 and 7 into Thordan Ex in 1 day - there are some extremely talented people who have already made it that far within the first 24 hours of release. They should be able to freely use PF to find others who are on the same stage of progression, and to work together to achieve the common goal of clearing said phases (or the fight in general).

It takes time to teach people to get past certain phases. My friend, Adelina, spent 16 hours doing Thordan EX. She was asking for people who can go past Phase 1 so that they can work on Phase 2. She ended up teaching half of the people in Idyllshire how to do Phase 1 and never saw Phase 2 because a) they are all "super quick learners" and b) kept leaving her PF after just 2-3 tries so she has to keep finding replacements and c) she's too nice.

The self-entitlement in this thread, and in the majority of the NA population, is also unreal. It is his PF, if he wants to seek people that are up to the same phase as him, THEN IT IS HIS CALL. It doesn't matter if its 1 minute into release. It is his PF to do as he wishes. If you want to set up a learning party for phases 1-4 of Thordan Ex, you can set up your own PF. Trust me when I say it will fill, as many people have yet to set foot in it. The people who are so-called quick learners should be able to find/set up a learning party and make it to phase 5-6 no problem, then once they can consistently do so, join his party to work on phase 6-7 to tidy it up and clear the fight. On top of this the OP was being exceptionally nice, politely asking people to leave if they do not meet the requirements for his PF (although props to those people for not lying and being truthful about how far they are into the fight as well and not sneaking in to try and get a carry). I do not see a problem with the JP style of setting up PFs, and I'm hoping to see more of these pop up.

[Zumi]

The responses on this thread are unfortunately atypical of the NA community vs what the JP community do, and also why my heart sinks as it's little things like this that make people believe that the general NA community will never get any better.

No, it is not "unreasonable" or whatever to ask for people who have been to phase 5, 6 and 7 into Thordan Ex in 1 day - there are some extremely talented people who have already made it that far within the first 24 hours of release. They should be able to freely use PF to find others who are on the same stage of progression, and to work together to achieve the common goal of clearing said phases (or the fight in general).

Except it wasn't a day when the OP posted that it was like maybe 3 hours since the patch came out. He wanted someone past 2 min in the fight which probably isn't going to find people at that point.