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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGMidlander View Post
    I'm not sure if you've seen botters move around before, but they teleport inside objects/landscape. I don't think regular routes of aggro are a problem for them.
    I wonder how to deal with the "flying island" altitude? You can still do the same thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGMidlander View Post
    I'm not sure if you've seen botters move around before, but they teleport inside objects/landscape. I don't think regular routes of aggro are a problem for them.
    Simple fix: Make it so NO gathering nodes spawn until everything on that island is dead. I think that could choke bots for a while.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    Simple fix: Make it so NO gathering nodes spawn until everything on that island is dead. I think that could choke bots for a while.
    With how long things take to kill and the respawn rate of monsters, you'll never be able to clear islands..
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    Simple fix: Make it so NO gathering nodes spawn until everything on that island is dead. I think that could choke bots for a while.
    This is a serious idea that should be implemented ASAP!! Kill everything in the island, gathering nodes appear for 10 minutes only, then mobs respawn and have to be killed again. Glad stealth does not work there, those big monsters are hungry and need to be fed. Gatherer can sacrifice themselves, for every 20 gatherers who died, a rank 5 will spawn lol.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    With how long things take to kill and the respawn rate of monsters, you'll never be able to clear islands..
    I dunno, if you REALLY focused and pushed yourself you could possibly do it. We seemed to kill things at a good rate despite only being say 6 of us.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    With how long things take to kill and the respawn rate of monsters, you'll never be able to clear islands..
    You can clear a tiny island with 4 mobs. I am sure there are a few somewhere. Hence maybe SE should create a gatherer only Diadem full of easy prey monster that drops only bronze chest and gears level 150, rarely 180, that gatherers can clear easily and go back gathering. No need to clump them with the rest of the players who only there to fight for gears.
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  7. #27
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    uuuh you guys realize the mobs respawn right? lol There is no "Clearing" an island. Most of the gathering takes place on the larger islands.

    Diadem is meant to be gathered on and kill monsters. I'm sorry but get over yourselves. If you don't like people gathering then don't run it. I doubt it's going away.

    When I run it, I gather. If asked to help kill something I fly to go help kill it. How about instead of being so toxic and rude you ask for help? I understand that wont work with everything but it will with most people.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Youkulm View Post
    uuuh you guys realize the mobs respawn right? lol There is no "Clearing" an island. Most of the gathering takes place on the larger islands.

    Diadem is meant to be gathered on and kill monsters. I'm sorry but get over yourselves. If you don't like people gathering then don't run it. I doubt it's going away.

    When I run it, I gather. If asked to help kill something I fly to go help kill it. How about instead of being so toxic and rude you ask for help? I understand that wont work with everything but it will with most people.
    I'm specifically targeting DF in my posts, where at least on the EU community, you've more chance of winning the lottery 100 weeks in a row than getting a full group that WON'T do stuff like that. And when you ask for help they'll be like "Screw you go die in a fire" sort of attitude.

    EDIT: I've just made myself look a damn fool with no reading comprehension or memory. My suggestion about clearing the island was actually aimed as a way of stopping bots botting the mats to claim a monopoly.
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    Last edited by Paladinleeds; 11-13-2015 at 05:40 PM.
    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    By changing the Diadem, making Easy focusing on tons of gathering objectives, it will give everyone a chance to do the activities of their choosing. Those group of gatherers only could also help spawn other higher tier mobs, and let the "fight only" group take care of them - which they also help clearing monsters in the island for gatherer groups to gather more. No need to cluster chuck everyone in one big hot tranny mess of a duty finder. Just separate them, period.
    There should be an option for no whiners but then you'd be locked out of all content wouldn't you?_
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone-wolfe-02 View Post
    There should be an option for no whiners but then you'd be locked out of all content wouldn't you?_
    Haha, I'm going to say this right now, I'm not fussed if SE ban my account. So by all means ask them to. If they remove me from the community, I'm saving £9 a month (I won't create an alt account because I believe it's the wrong attitude to try and ban evade). And if I got locked out of all content, that's just £9 a month I'm saving. Well, £12/mth since I have 2 extra retainers. That's extra money I can use to buy new tech etc.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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