Diadem Gear > (Alex Norm / Savage, Crafting, PVP, VA, Extreme primals, tome) gear?

[SpookyGhost]

You don't press a button for 90 minutes and walk out with full i210.

I guess everyone took "no time" literally then. I remember now why I stopped arguing in that other thread. I'll be on my way.

[MeridaQ]

People are completely missing the point (snip)

Yes that is true, but that is also kinda of what we wanted. We wanted explorations to be fun and relevant, also most of the "relevant" content is 5 months old. I will still be raiding because it's fun to play with my friends, as for the whole be i210 really quick. First why not? Content still has mechanics and hard fights will still be hard. Explorations were not designed for the elite raiders it wad designed for everyone. Two a lot of people don't play to get their ilvl up, the appeal to do content for many is the experience. I think diadem is great and will run it for the fun, mats and to round out my gear.

[RadiantRay]

I don't know as a person who actually raids and is still trying to progess through Savage Alexander I feel that the diadem gear is a bit discouraging to continue running previous tiers of Alexander you've already beaten for gear that almost always never seem to drop. I can't really form an opinion yet on diadem since I never ran it before yet (yeah I know :c), but if what people are saying is true then I really don't mind grinding diadem instead of previous tiers of Alexander I already beaten and just go straight to practicing A3S with my static instead. I just need to try diadem for like a month to see how rare these godly 210 drops are but the weekly lockout on Savage drops (even if you don't even get anything) is just.....ugh I can't even put in words my disgust with this system.


Also what's up with some people in this thread assuming all raiders are elistist bad people anyway?

[Mature]

If you don't do savage what is the problem of getting 210 somewhere else? I still remember when people cried when twinecoat was introduced into hunting... People cry and cry and cry over the fact that casuals could get this higher upgrades without doing coil.

This time is a different story. Alex savage is OPTIONAL so you don't have to do it unless you really want to. The Diadem is fantastic way to carry on raiding for something that is accessible to EVERYONE.

[Iagainsti]

I guess everyone took "no time" literally then. I remember now why I stopped arguing in that other thread. I'll be on my way.

[Ladon]

If you don't do savage what is the problem of getting 210 somewhere else? I still remember when people cried when twinecoat was introduced into hunting... People cry and cry and cry over the fact that casuals could get this higher upgrades without doing coil.

This time is a different story. Alex savage is OPTIONAL so you don't have to do it unless you really want to. The Diadem is fantastic way to carry on raiding for something that is accessible to EVERYONE.

Because you don't need those kind of stats to do the content and this just introduces a bigger problem with power creep that they are already struggling with.

No only that but it just introduced more redundancy while they complain that they don't have the dev resources to do things in the game they would like. Taking steps to remove that redundancy would be a better direction to take the game, not add even more.

[Almalexia]

I guess everyone took "no time" literally then. I remember now why I stopped arguing in that other thread. I'll be on my way.

If I got lucky enough, I could walk out of Alexander Savage with full i210 in 2-3 weeks.

If I got lucky enough, I could walk out of Diadem with full i210 in "no time."

What are you getting at?

[Fevelle]

Because you don't need those kind of stats to do the content and this just introduces a bigger problem with power creep that they are already struggling with.

No only that but it just introduced more redundancy while they complain that they don't have the dev resources to do things in the game they would like. Taking steps to remove that redundancy would be a better direction to take the game, not add even more.

The ones who have to decide if we need or not need good equips are the devs and ourselves. Not the raider playerbase.

[MeridaQ]

I don't know as a person who actually raids and is still trying to progess through Savage Alexander....


Also what's up with some people in this thread assuming all raiders are elistist bad people anyway?

Not really sure what you are meaning here. No one is saying elite players are bad, unless I missed something. My comment about elite raiders was just stating a fact elite skilled players were only a part of the group considered when designing the diadem. This doesn't mean they are bad, that would be self deprecating because I raid too. I am glad they added more content more options for everyone because slushy man is a jerk and it's refreshing to do something else. Can't wait to get my i205 axe. Diadem doesn't feel grindy the 90 minutes flies by, so have fun.

[DenebPunkin]

I guess everyone took "no time" literally then. I remember now why I stopped arguing in that other thread. I'll be on my way.

Probably because you got caught and couldnt face the shame of being wrong =D.

^_^. We arent mind readers... we can only base our understanding on what you wrote.. and using "no time" the way did resulted in people responding accordingly.