Is it unreasonable to seek people at the part of a fight as you are?

[melisande]

Gotta love that western culture attitude! /s

[Felis]

Nothing unreasonable about wanting to keep progressing with other people who are as far along as your group.

But being day 1 it is rather impractical.

On day 1 there should be still many players new to that fight. So an own learning party for stage 1 should get full really fast.

[Avidria]

In general, no, it isn't wrong or terribly unreasonable to want a group with people on the same phase as you. It's your PF, you can do what you want.

On day one of a patch? Still not wrong, since again it's your group and you can do what you like with it, but you shouldn't be terribly surprised if your party fills slowly or if you get some confused or vexed responses. Not so say that I think the guy who tried to join even without meeting the requirements was right - he wasn't. But the other comments aren't what I'd call unreasonable considering a lot of people probably hadn't even gotten the chance to touch the new content. I know I didn't even have a chance to log in until a solid 12 hours after the patch came out since released at 3AM on a weekday. :/

[Squrilruler]

But the other comments aren't what I'd call unreasonable considering a lot of people probably hadn't even gotten the chance to touch the new content. I know I didn't even have a chance to log in until a solid 12 hours after the patch came out since released at 3AM on a weekday. :/

What is preventing you from starting your own PF then? Why is his PF "unreasonable"? Is his group the only one in PF?

[Garotte14]

It's this sense of entitlement that people expect to be carried. You are most definitely not wrong. Hell in JP, its common place to break the learning parties in pf down by phases. You don't join a group that has progressed farther than you period. If you do, you get blacklisted by the entire server. It doesn't matter if it's day 12, day 1, or 5 hours in. It's not an excuse to expect others to halt their progression just because you were at work and couldn't get on right away. You can start your own learning party, wait 10 minutes for someone to create a learning party, ask your FC, etc. You have plenty of options and none of them require you forcing others to take a step back just so you can catch up. Its so frustrating when people expect everyone to respect their time, yet refuse to respect the time of others which is exactly what this is.

[Aethaeryn]

What is preventing you from starting your own PF then? Why is his PF "unreasonable"? Is his group the only one in PF?

Not everyone is comfortable leading parties while tackling new content. I'm one of those people, but I'd just wait for a new group to show up rather than trying to convince OP's group that I can learn fast and am not terrible. I mean, I guess you could put "looking for someone who wants to lead" in the PF...?

[Kali-ka]

Just wanted to echo the sentiment of the OP not doing anything wrong. If you want people in your party at or past a certain point in a fight, that is perfectly fine and no one else should be butthurt over you asking for that. There is absolutely nothing stopping those people from creating their own PF for wherever they are in the fight. I would also go so far as to assume they would do the same thing when they progress and not take anyone completely new.

What I DON'T agree with is a PF I saw on my server BEFORE the fight was even out. It was asking for people to join who were of a certain high ilvl AND have AS4 on farm. Not only did I find that incredibly elitist, but insulting to anyone since that person was saying everyone else's skill level isn't good enough FOR AN EASIER FIGHT. Yeah...I get that you don't want any scrubs in your party...but come on!

[Magis]

Not everyone is comfortable leading parties while tackling new content. I'm one of those people, but I'd just wait for a new group to show up rather than trying to convince OP's group that I can learn fast and am not terrible. I mean, I guess you could put "looking for someone who wants to lead" in the PF...?

I literally made a PF titled: "First time Thordan, let's try it out".

Got 8 people and we all went in. Step out of your comfort zone then... jeeze this isn't IRL where you have to talk to people and look em in the eye. It's just text.

[Aethaeryn]

I literally made a PF titled: "First time Thordan, let's try it out".

Got 8 people and we all went in. Step out of your comfort zone then... jeeze this isn't IRL where you have to talk to people and look em in the eye. It's just text.

Joining a PF at all is already stepping out of my comfort zone. >_> Too many bad experiences with jerks. I usually have enough friends around to not need PF, though. Since content is still new, it shouldn't really be necessary to force yourself to lead if you aren't comfortable with it. At the time of me writing this, there's a PF up requiring certain experience, and a full learning party. Not even prime time yet.

[Magis]

Joining a PF at all is already stepping out of my comfort zone. >_> Too many bad experiences with jerks. I usually have enough friends around to not need PF, though. Since content is still new, it shouldn't really be necessary to force yourself to lead if you aren't comfortable with it. At the time of me writing this, there's a PF up requiring certain experience, and a full learning party. Not even prime time yet.

Don't go in thinking it as leading. State that it's a blind run, if someone gives tips take em, and just chill. I wasn't really giving any orders until we wiped a few times and started formulating a strategy. Someone else could have chimed in instead of me though and give suggestions.