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  1. #81
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    Fenral's Avatar
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    W'fharl Tia
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    The "classic" Final Fantasy ending is never a total victory. Yes, you defeated this world destroying evil, but evil itself is an eternal part of humanity, no different from love, or hope. It's not a condemnation of human weakness, just a more philosophical approach to the "happily ever after" endings that were typical of the genre before those crazy mavericks over at Square decided to show that a game's story could be more than just the "hero defeats the dark lord" routine that made Dragon Quest so popular. There's no "ever," just a "happily after."
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    あっきれた。

  2. #82
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    Pinkie_Pie's Avatar
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    Brynhilda Skyforge
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    People, people, you need to understand about the warriors of *darkness*

    The warrior's of darkness were the people in the trailer of 1.0, and yes they were all the same people, The Miqo'te was the one wanting to get gil at any cost at the table(which became the bard), the Lala white mage was the derplander future companion seen in the echo, the Elezen was the one at the table arguing with the miqo'te that becomes the black mage, and the Roegadyn marauder that the derplander saw with the echo as a future companion as well that laters down the road becomes a paladin. Don't know what happened to the Elezen gladiator girl in the echo(may have died). AT the trailer intro of 2.0 A realm reborn, you see them all fighting in the field but remember, doing that time(of the whole 1.0) there were "MORE" then one warrior of light and only VERY few that were "champions" that get the full power of hydaelyn which was just told to us by Krile. The player didn't go the same route as the derplander went in 1.0 so its understandable that nobody knew who they were.

    This shows that the "Darklander" and his crew were another band of light warriors gone dark doing the new realm reborn eorzea time, they could have been fighting them long before our time raise in power cause it was also told that the ascians were stirring trouble AFTER the calamity. Remember, in the video the 5 got ported out of the battle, not just them but many others by louisoix in the battle he could save but they all did not land at the same time frame, many of them landed years/months apart from one other. The Darklander crew just happen to land together and ride off into the sunset looking for new advanture way before us(the 1.0 players) got ported in.

    You guys ready to have your mind blown?

    ARE YOU READY?

    IF you were a 1.0 player, you were *ALONE* and walked to your *city* you listed and were on your road to become the next "champion" of the light.

    If you were a new player, aka the 2.0 player, you are not a vet from the battle, instead you are some nobody on his road to glory/fame or whatever you chosen only to later down the road to become the next champion of light and having no idea you had these powers "the echo" and so on in the story and was told this.



    Everything makes sense once you start doing this.

    In case someone says "Well the scions don't know who you were if you were blah blah blah after helping them in 1.0" that my friend is a plothole because something they didn't have time to add in due to time.
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    Last edited by Pinkie_Pie; 11-12-2015 at 09:44 AM.
    When you see someones glamour with non matching boots

  3. #83
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    saber_alter's Avatar
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    Lyrre Myste
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    Cactuar
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    I only wonder who is currently stronger, us (as the sole warrior of light), or does the combined strength of the warriors of darkness top our own. we were never given the true strength of that current iteration of ravana, and the vision the echo gave us prevented us from assisting the other scions against darklander's crew.
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  4. #84
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    Tyger Maimhov
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    The thing that has me confused about the WoD being Derplander and party is that Derplander is also in the movie for Heavensward. So we have Derplander and party being both symbol and individuals (that we never met) in 1.0, the party being individuals who chose (or were force onto) a different path than we did, and Derplander still being a player symbol. Personally I got a Warriors-from-an-earlier-calamity vibe from the echo, except that's Derplander and party.. AAAARGH. Personal Darksteel foil hat theory: Every calamity had a group that looked like Derplander's party.

    A side note. It's been stated before that the Elezen Blackmage is the Elezen woman, not the Elezen man.
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by finiteHP View Post
    The thing that has me confused about the WoD being Derplander and party is that Derplander is also in the movie for Heavensward. So we have Derplander and party being both symbol and individuals (that we never met) in 1.0, the party being individuals who chose (or were force onto) a different path than we did, and Derplander still being a player symbol. Personally I got a Warriors-from-an-earlier-calamity vibe from the echo, except that's Derplander and party.. AAAARGH. Personal Darksteel foil hat theory: Every calamity had a group that looked like Derplander's party. A side note. It's been stated before that the Elezen Blackmage is the Elezen woman, not the Elezen man.
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    When you see someones glamour with non matching boots

  6. #86
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    Autumn Harvestwind
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    I really enjoyed this patch. Krile really warmed up to me but I am very wary of lalafells. I remember in 2.5 there was a lalafell ascian. Just who is it!?!?

    Jokes aside, the poking at Alphinaud's side really was enjoyable, and Thancred's reveal was exciting and also very funny. +1
    I am a little sad he lost his magic ability and hope that he regains it.

    Also Alisaie cameo made me so excited, I really want to see more of her!!!
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  7. #87
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    Savvy Selbina
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    Adamantoise
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    Bard Lv 62
    Quote Originally Posted by Emmanellain View Post
    snip
    I agree Artoirel was acting out of character and weird, and a little nicer than usual? I thought at first it was just because of.. you know, his brother dying and his father breaking down in tears, and maybe things got put into perspective for him. But it got more evident towards the end that he's not himself.

    The scene with Artoirel, Edmont and Aymeric really broke my heart.. To overlook his own son when he's standing right there, and to tell Aymeric that he reminds him of Haurchefant and he couldn't bear to lose him, that's the kind of stuff that could send Artoirel to the dark side, man. I know Edmont has doubted his abilities before, I wonder why..

    I don't know what's up. Emmanellain's last expression was weird, I don't know what he was thinking but definitely something is going on.. I miss Haurchefant and I feel sad for Artoirel and I hope he doesn't go all evil; I was already so scared I was going to lose him too in the Vault.
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    Last edited by Savvy; 11-12-2015 at 03:19 PM.

  8. #88
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    myahele's Avatar
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by AutumnHarvestwind View Post
    I really enjoyed this patch. Krile really warmed up to me but I am very wary of lalafells. I remember in 2.5 there was a lalafell ascian. Just who is it!?!?

    Jokes aside, the poking at Alphinaud's side really was enjoyable, and Thancred's reveal was exciting and also very funny. +1
    I am a little sad he lost his magic ability and hope that he regains it.

    Also Alisaie cameo made me so excited, I really want to see more of her!!!
    Agreed, can't tell if it'd just lalafell expression ... or evil. Still, too soon to tell
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  9. #89
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    Rannie Lfey
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie_Pie View Post
    /snip

    It was already confirmed by Ferne before 2.0 came out that the blm was the female elezen from the opening movie and not the male.

    shown here

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post898626


    So yes, the Midlander male, Miqo’te female, Roegadyn male, Elezen female, and Lalafell female in the recent trailers are in fact the same ones that appeared in the 1.0 trailer! (Yes, the black mage is the Elezen female from the morbol party, not the snooty male from the Midlander’s party. The robe & hat conceal some of her more distinguishing features, and we all know there was no bust size adjustment feature back in 1.0).


    now on to my thoughts of the msq... yes it was very short in my humble opinion... but then again with all the people complaining from 3.0's launch who never played before 3.0 came out about the main story quests... I can see why they made them shorter... now some are complaining they were too short... (poor se they're damned if they do and damned if they don't) I really liked how they made Thancred tolerable, hotter and with a better va in my opinion. Honestly I doubt minfillia is dead seeing as the Mor Dhona Kids say they were being run ragged by a woman named Ascillia unless it's them trying to throw us off her scent. I felt bad for dude when his father called Aymeric his son (i really need to remember people's names in this game.) I just can't wait for more of the story to unfold... I had a friend upset that there wasn't anymore Hildebrand quests...
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    Last edited by Rannie; 11-12-2015 at 04:43 PM.

  10. #90
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    CyrilLucifer's Avatar
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    Holy Emmerololth
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Ascilla snip
    That was confirmed a few months ago to be a typo.
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