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  1. #2621
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    Rhyku's Avatar
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    Estinien Wyrmblood
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    Tonberry
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    Sage Lv 90
    Just walked away from what is surely the worst healing experience of my life to date.

    We get into fractal and right off the bat, the tank SPRINTS away the moment the instance starts. No problemo, I think, perhaps he's the type who waits before the first group for buffs and all that jazz.

    NOPE.

    Grabs 1st 2 mob groups, had to swiftcast Prot, and Lightspeed to heal him. After the first boss, he runs to grab 2nd two groups. LS is on CD this time as I've just used it to cast Prot and SS. He dies, we all respawn and we come back to the same spot. And guess what happens? He runs off AGAIN before my prot goes off! After a few seconds, he runs back to us and tells me to prot him. So I do, but since the mobs are already on him and LS is still on CD, he suffers another death. Cue blaming the healer for not healing him. Ragequits DF.

    Sorry, I don't think Benefic can cure stupidity. Also, I don't know why it's so hard to wait a few seconds to get a proper protect -_-
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  2. #2622
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    Saseal's Avatar
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    Saseal Korei
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Had a few horrors, but they're spread out and I haven't been as actively posting.... (too much irl crap going on)

    Ran A1 after a short absence of Alexing. I'd gotten my AST up to 60 and started to use it in level 60 content (60 dungeons/raids/EX) and I'm using the Gordian/upgraded Law gear from my WHM (Eso was WHM specific...), so figured, "hey, I've had some practice, time to try it out in Alex".

    I get a WHM as a co-healer. Naturally, I go into Noct stance.
    Right off the bat, my DF'ed co healer remarks,
    WHM: "Wow Saseal, dat stance"
    At this point, I'm just kind of "wait, what?"
    WHM: "I almost never see an AST go into that stance when a WHM is in the party LOL"
    I'm confused... I can't tell if they mean they always see AST go Diurnal with a WHM present - which isn't bad at all, but not something I ever see - or do they mean something else? They can't mean the Noct stance being bad, right? Isn't that normal...? So I try to half joke, to feel out wth he's talking about - "lol is this a good thing or a bad thing? xD"
    A tank: "Good thing"
    WHM: "Bad."

    Wait, what? Why would this be a bad thing? It's almost like a WHM/SCH pairing, in Noct, and every time I'm on WHM paired with a DF'd AST, they go Noct.
    Is this some kind of new shiz I don't know about?? He's trolling, right??
    I switch to Diurnal, wondering if there's something I just don't know. "Noct should only be used in pvp".
    Errr.... I know Noct ASTs are hard to kill in PVP, but...... wat?
    While I'm confused as all holy hell and typing to my FC mate, who had queued with me, 'wtf is he talking about?', the WHM then starts toxifying further, when we reach Faust.
    One tank says nothing and does nothing. The other tank, who had responded earlier, states they don't want to MT.
    So, we stand there staring at Faust for a good while. Somewhere in there some, someone pulls (memory is fuzzy as it just went all to hell here).
    It's...... it doesn't go well. At all. While I heal till my mp is dead - luminescence and ewer cards and all - I end up resorting aspected benefic and Collective Unconsciousness over the MT while the WHM heals, so I can at least regen heal the person while my mp slowly recollects.

    We crashed and burned while Faust was at about 8%.
    I switched back to Noct >_>

    We get back, the WHM is still blabbering on like his personality was a sewer and next thing I know, the WHM attempts to kick the tank that seems to actually be a living, breathing person, all the while LOLing and being an ass. The tank leaves, the WHM laughs and leaves....

    Somewhere in there (it's seriously hazy... this was maybe two weeks ago? On top of sorting my own confusion out) the remaining DRK tank pulled, then ran out of the barrier, for no apparent reason (probably didn't notice we were down some people). End up with another healer - an AST - and ended up one-tanking Faust and the ADDs.

    Luckily, after that, things were better. >_> *Clings to that other healer for sanity*

    It made me doubt everything I knew as AST and experienced as WHM pairing with an AST, that I went into Alex again right after, into A3. Lo and behold, another WHM. No word on my Noct stance.... but also not a single peep on any Regen for any tank. They stood in everything and just sorta AFK'd unless they needed to tetra or bene. Maybe they did more, I don't know, but it certainly didn't feel like much else was done... I'm pretty sure everyone here knows when they can feel they're doing double duty. Thats what it felt like. Hell, they just stood there and took a nap in the center of the room when Jiggly-butt turned into a water puddle and the slimes came out (not KO'd just standing there for a while before waltzing out of it). By all means, make the Noct AST solo heal.
    z_z

    In a different event...
    This was on top of a SCH's comment after an A3 run, while I'm on WHM, in which I had a hard time keeping up with the AoEs in the last phase's Raid-wide AoE spam/Cascade, no matter how much I had to spam Medica/II, people were just taking tons of damage and standing in everything (not moving when marked, and not even moving out of the following AoEs from other nearby people in that duration, etc)... AND the DPS was super slow (I've never seen so many rounds of Cascade... and we hit enrage/wiped, the first attempt with this group) - something along the lines of never having been a scholar not able to DPS in A3, before. I couldn't tell if this was a remark against my healing and heaven forbid they had to help/not DPS, or if it was a remark on the party making it too difficult on the healing.

    But me being me, I assume they thought I was crap. -_- Everyone blame the healer, including the other healer! \o/
    -___-

    ALmost back to back, that's a +100 to insecurity in my healing. Awesome.

    Well, whatever.
    At least my first Void Ark run was <3? *Hugs the lala co-healer*
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    Last edited by Saseal; 11-12-2015 at 02:04 PM.

  3. #2623
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    Twilite's Avatar
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    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
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    Saseal - All the more reason why I don't heal in trials. All that WHM should have done was just shut up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyku View Post
    Just walked away from what is surely the worst healing experience of my life to date.

    We get into fractal and right off the bat, the tank SPRINTS away the moment the instance starts. No problemo, I think, perhaps he's the type who waits before the first group for buffs and all that jazz.

    NOPE.

    Grabs 1st 2 mob groups, had to swiftcast Prot, and Lightspeed to heal him. After the first boss, he runs to grab 2nd two groups. LS is on CD this time as I've just used it to cast Prot and SS. He dies, we all respawn and we come back to the same spot. And guess what happens? He runs off AGAIN before my prot goes off! After a few seconds, he runs back to us and tells me to prot him. So I do, but since the mobs are already on him and LS is still on CD, he suffers another death. Cue blaming the healer for not healing him. Ragequits DF.

    Sorry, I don't think Benefic can cure stupidity. Also, I don't know why it's so hard to wait a few seconds to get a proper protect -_-

    Couple of things.

    1. SPRINT from a tank is a red flag. No good times there, ever.

    2. He was still going to die even if you had LS and protect up. Because a dumbass tank that blows all his TP at the very start, is likely to be a tank that don't use CDs either.

    3. I've noticed tanks running off without protect a lot recently. What the hell is up with that?
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    Last edited by Twilite; 11-12-2015 at 07:32 AM.

  4. #2624
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    Shalan's Avatar
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    Eilonwy Ilyr
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilite View Post
    3. I've noticed tanks running off without protect a lot recently. What the hell is up with that?
    I've noticed this as well, figured I was just getting the luck of the draw... The moment that gate drops they're off, and in my experience those that do this tend to bite more than they can chew in terms of pulls.
    And what's with all the ninjas? Getting at least one per group, often two, in most of my runs the past two days.
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    Last edited by Shalan; 11-12-2015 at 08:16 AM.

  5. #2625
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    Fevelle's Avatar
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    Fiona Greentear
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saseal View Post
    ...
    You sure get some of the worse co-healers you can get on DF ;-;
    Anyway, as a main WHM, please DO use Noct Stance when paired with a WHM (or at least me). Healing with a shield specialist gives me much more security for everything when healing (and I really hate being paired with other WHMs because we end up using Tetra and Bene on the same target and same time, since it's hard to know how your co-healer plays on DF. That's one of the reasons I try to queue with my SCH friend for every 2-healer content in the game.
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  6. #2626
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    SkyBane001's Avatar
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    Alune Ura
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    Zalera
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalan View Post
    I've noticed this as well, figured I was just getting the luck of the draw... The moment that gate drops they're off, and in my experience those that do this tend to bite more than they can chew in terms of pulls.
    And what's with all the ninjas? Getting at least one per group, often two, in most of my runs the past two days.
    The Ninjas probably have to do with the mudra fix in the patch and people wanting to try them out. Apparently, from what I've read, it's glorious and everyone ever with a ninja needs to try it.
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  7. #2627
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    Rhyku's Avatar
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    Estinien Wyrmblood
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    Tonberry
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    Sage Lv 90
    3. I've noticed tanks running off without protect a lot recently. What the hell is up with that?
    I usually don't have a problem with tanks sprinting right off the bat because they're usually (keyword: usually) smart enough to wait for the rest to catch up and for healers to buff and stuffs. It's the arrogant sort who thinks they can tank through everything without waiting for healer to catch up or buffs to come, and merrily blame everyone but their own selves when things go south.

    I think some of these folks need to go back and learn the basics of squad mechanics in DF before they attempt higher content.
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  8. #2628
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    Aiot O'lein
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    Cactuar
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    Rogue Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SkyBane001 View Post
    The Ninjas probably have to do with the mudra fix in the patch and people wanting to try them out. Apparently, from what I've read, it's glorious and everyone ever with a ninja needs to try it.
    As a NIN main, this is spot on.

    The only Tank I can think of that can pull off the Sprint on the get-go is the PLD... DRK seems like they can pull it off but... haven't seen nor tried myself... yet-but-however, I've seen that happen on horribly overgeared dungeons like Halatali HM.
    WAR Sprinting is never, ever, good.
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  9. #2629
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    Saseal's Avatar
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    Saseal Korei
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    I've a new healer horror story, from last night... Void Ark...
    Almost had a healer/tank carry at the blobby boss. Almost.
    I don't even know what was happening... first time into Ark, we had a number of new people, myself, my co-healer and 75% of the rest of the party and a number in alliances announcing newbness, included. Everything went like warm butter. Only a few casualties. I frapped my second time in with assumption that Weds would still have okay groups running it (not the 'end of the week insanity'), and I could show not-yet-raid-initiated friends in lower levels.

    But this.... I don't know o.o
    If this becomes common.... I suggest this boss... not be DPS LBed... and LB3s saved for healer LBs...
    Though, I do know I threw out more raises than I probably should have. *Slaps own face* MP? whats MP? >.>

    This was the worst portion, but before that, in the trash areas with the Knots, the group was split between our designated area and a different group's... so the Knots weren't going down and we/the healers had a hard time keeping up with the poison stacks from it.

    Lastly, we didn't kill the three ADDs in the final boss fast enough and auto wiped... (too much focus on one ADD and not enough DPS split between the three)


    Edit: ......only now learned standing on the platforms makes things worse....
    Still some figuring out to do, with the new raid >_>
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    Last edited by Saseal; 11-13-2015 at 01:57 PM.

  10. #2630
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    WingsOfAzrael's Avatar
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    Emarial Artayu
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 90
    the diadem 2 brancho w/e star dinos stacked on top of eachother

    earlier, a bunch of rank 3 adds and 2 rank 5 adds in the diadem
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