Infinite arrows

[Naraku_Diabolos]

In 1.0 you needed to buy arrows, apparently it was expensive to bard and was a nuisance. When transitioning to 2.0 they reduced the currency amount by 1 digit, i believe they sighted removal of bard arrows as the reason they did that. So it's not lore related, more of a QoL.

This is why. Arrows were removed because of the Gil reductions from 1.0 to 2.0. I had 2M Gil in 1.0. Once my character transitioned to ARR, I had about 200,000 gil. Yes it sucked but they had to reduce costs from NPC purchases as they were high, especially arrows. Plus it was annoying in FFXI, with having to purchase stacks of 99 arrows along with ninja tools being at 99. It was expensive in FFXI because of that as well, which is another reason I quit that game as I kept running out of gil because of consumables.

[liljramos88]

Now would it be a farfetched idea to implement them as off hand weapons. I mean u won't have to buy them as consumable they would take the off hand slot. There will be diff effects for diff off hand weapons blind arrows could have a chance to cause blindness. There is no stat increase just debuff that could be added. Same could go with tomawaks for warriors I just feel that the off hand weapon slot is a waist.

[WyrahFhurrst]

Now would it be a farfetched idea to implement them as off hand weapons. I mean u won't have to buy them as consumable they would take the off hand slot. There will be diff effects for diff off hand weapons blind arrows could have a chance to cause blindness. There is no stat increase just debuff that could be added. Same could go with tomawaks for warriors I just feel that the off hand weapon slot is a waist.

Honestly, the offhand slot is a fair bit superfluous. They might as well remove it for combat classes, and just give Paladin Sword and Shield as one item with the stats combined and the block rate as part of it. As it is, Paladin gets an extra item to customize their appearance that no one else can make use of. The shields for Conjurer and Thaumaturge were silly and unnecessary when they were included, and replacing all of those with a two handed weapon would be much better than requiring double customization.

[Khalithar]

Because having to carry around actual ammo is a relic of old MMO design, one that needed to be killed, buried in an unmarked grave, and never spoken of again!

[Jamez82]

I thought he asked a lore reason and not why the development team gave them unlimited arrows.

There are plenty of things in this game though that break immersion to the point it boggles my mind why they even bother with a story line. Gotta just learn to live with it. ^.^

[RyuRoots]

I thought he asked a lore reason and not why the development team gave them unlimited arrows.

Except there IS no lore reason. It's a video game + convenience is the only answer.

[Februs]

There is one thing this thread put into my mind (thinking on previous FF games that had "ammunition types") and it makes me curious about how they might handle the Samurai job (we all know it's coming, so might as well speculate).

In the past, Samurai's attacks and spells changed depending on what kinds of Katana's you had in your inventory/equipped. You would use it, and, depending on durability, the sword would break and you'd have to buy another to use the technique again. Obviously, this would not work in an MMO, but I am curious how you guys think this kind of mech will be handled in the future, especially lore-wise.

Do you think they'll handle the samurai move set the same way as any other (Chakra management, for example), or will would you like to see them do something different with the job. It doesn't necessarily have to be consumables, mind you. I can picture the Samurai using two katanas (similar to ninja) in which the left handed weapon is not identical to the right (different from ninja) and effects the play style of the job... perhaps similar to stance dancing for Whm or Pld. Ie: equip this sword for dmg boosts. Equip that one for support boosts. Equip another to completely change you from Dps to Tank (highly unlikely, but you get the idea.) etc.

Way off topic, but this just kind of popped into my head while I was reading your guys' comments =/.

[saber_alter]

I thought he asked a lore reason and not why the development team gave them unlimited arrows.

There are plenty of things in this game though that break immersion to the point it boggles my mind why they even bother with a story line. Gotta just learn to live with it. ^.^

There is no lore reason, unfortunately.


why would there be anyway? the only thing toned down in this game is armor design.

[Cromi_Jobly]

This isn't only a bard thing. Ninjas have infinite throwing daggers, Paladins have the Captain America shield that returns after being thrown, Warriors have infinite axes to throw, and Dragoons have infinite spears to throw.

[DPZ2]

Ok, how about this for Lore.

Start with an actual arrow. See the arrow. Feel the arrow. Be the arrow. Conjure arrows at will from thin air while nocking the arrow.

It's a Deep Bard Secret, similar to the Deep Secrets of Dragoons, Warriors, Paladins and Ninjas.

It is never written in books, or seen in quests.

It's the same sort of Deep Secret for most jobs/classes to provide Actions and Traits that appear magically in thin air whenever you advance. It's why you have that silly stance after learning every new Secret during the class/job quests ...