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  1. #1111
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butcherboy View Post
    ^^^
    Can we get that now? I tried talking to that Lala and I got nothing.
    patience grasshopper, give it another day
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    Question about Demolish timing and fracture.

    I know that using Fracture can be a small DPS gain if you use it as filler for Demolishes timer.

    Would the same be true for meditation? If you stacked 1 chakra every time you would fracture?
    Then used it for fc?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynric View Post
    Question about Demolish timing and fracture.

    I know that using Fracture can be a small DPS gain if you use it as filler for Demolishes timer.

    Would the same be true for meditation? If you stacked 1 chakra every time you would fracture?
    Then used it for fc?
    you will still be loosing dps, but yes this will lessen the effect, you can use 1-2 meditation in place of fracture depending on your skill speed.
    however, this should only be used as a last ditch effort to use purification, you still lose to much to consider using FC

    edit: on second thought, let me run the numbers a little closer on this, its probably still going to only be useful for purification though.
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    Last edited by Zamii; 11-09-2015 at 04:47 PM.

  4. #1114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zamii View Post
    you will still be loosing dps, but yes this will lessen the effect, you can use 1-2 meditation in place of fracture depending on your skill speed.
    however, this should only be used as a last ditch effort to use purification, you still lose to much to consider using FC

    edit: on second thought, let me run the numbers a little closer on this, its probably still going to only be useful for purification though.
    Yeah I haven't played monk in a while and just picked it back up and kind of wondered if there was anything else interesting to do with meditation/FC besides stack meditation during downtime, and I know you can't exactly keep fracture ticking an entire fight.

    I also didn't want to search 110 pages of the thread to see if someone did the math already xP. Excuse mah laziness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynric View Post
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    just finished running down the math, admitted i used some of my old fracture data from the start of 3.0 to speed up the process :P
    it comes very close to dps neutral vs the non-fracture usage, so it would be a good TP saver, although still not as strong as purification.

    in the end, forbidden chakra is about a 31 potency loss overall, assuming no GCD clipping, over the non-fracture rotation, per 5 stacks
    this however has to compete with the 184 potency gain that fracture provides over the same time period

    keep in mind the data i used is a little old, and lacking the gear variance we have access to now, but the end result should still be the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zamii View Post
    just finished running down the math, admitted i used some of my old fracture data from the start of 3.0 to speed up the process :P
    it comes very close to dps neutral vs the non-fracture usage, so it would be a good TP saver, although still not as strong as purification.

    in the end, forbidden chakra is about a 31 potency loss overall, assuming no GCD clipping, over the non-fracture rotation, per 5 stacks
    this however has to compete with the 184 potency gain that fracture provides over the same time period

    keep in mind the data i used is a little old, and lacking the gear variance we have access to now, but the end result should still be the same.
    That's fine, I appreciate the effort either way. Kind of a shame it's still a loss though :x. I'm really disappointed in the amount of usage you can really get out of FC and TK. I mean it's something I didn't have in 2.0 but I really wish I could use them more x.x
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie_Pie View Post
    [2.0]The following item for concealing the appearance of a pugilist's arm is available for purchase from Tataroga in Mor Dhona at Revenant's Toll (X:22 Y:6).
    The Emperor's New Fist

    Enjoy..
    Also noticed we get our Punching Gloves (crafted from Leatherworker)! So excited for these
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynric View Post
    That's fine, I appreciate the effort either way. Kind of a shame it's still a loss though :x. I'm really disappointed in the amount of usage you can really get out of FC and TK. I mean it's something I didn't have in 2.0 but I really wish I could use them more x.x
    All depends on the content. Later content allows you a higher number of opportunities to use them, in particular current extreme primals and Alexander Savage (I can't really remember Alex normal too much since it's been quite a long while since I've done it) you get to use these abilities a decent bit. However, I do understand the initial disappointment of usage early on. Would have been nicer if they were implemented in a slightly different way, but since they've designed so much content with downtime now they work.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sailysium View Post
    Also noticed we get our Punching Gloves (crafted from Leatherworker)! So excited for these
    Also, hot damn...I didn't see that. If these are some Ryu/Ken style punching gloves...so done. All over that.
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    Last edited by Ricdeau; 11-10-2015 at 03:52 AM.

  9. #1119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricdeau View Post
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    Ah yeah I'm fully aware of the places where you can use them during downtime or before downtime, and in Seize pvp they seem like they'd be pretty good, I'm just yeah disappointed in the actual usage of the new skills we got.
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    Hey guys sorry for not updating guide in along time been stuck in the a3s hell.. Since i only raid 5hrs per week due to some members getting new jobs etc. process of progression is slow.
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