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    Well, they'll have done a lot of the testing already on their sandbox servers, in regards to merging alliances in zones and such. The time to fix major problems with that was weeks ago.

    Ideally, they'll fire it up and it'll work as intended. If it doesn't work as intended, it means they forgot to load another component from the merged build or someone dropped the ball horribly during alpha testing last month and would likely get fired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    Well, they'll have done a lot of the testing already on their sandbox servers, in regards to merging alliances in zones and such. The time to fix major problems with that was weeks ago.

    Ideally, they'll fire it up and it'll work as intended. If it doesn't work as intended, it means they forgot to load another component from the merged build or someone dropped the ball horribly during alpha testing last month and would likely get fired.
    Yes, the main testing should definitely done and they should know everything is working on the test/sandbox server.

    However, patches are unpredictable. Believe me when I say, a part of the patch not applying properly can literally mean hours of lost time. Ideally, it should work. Realistically, something will always go wrong.
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    Ah but every patch is incremental - so let everyone download GB's of data then if there's a bug download MB's (or KB's) of data to fix it. As people say - zero excuse to not put the patch up early: servers are down.
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    The patch has to be applied to the live servers before we can download it, and that won't be until the maint is done...it isn't rocket science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LionFranco View Post
    The patch has to be applied to the live servers before we can download it, and that won't be until the maint is done...it isn't rocket science.
    It does?

    Is that why games like WoW can push 95% of the patch weeks before patching the servers?

    It's not rocket science, no. But it IS computer science - all the data relating to the new dungeons, the textures, the new armors, all that? That is NOT going to change just because a small bug is found in how /grouppose works. ALL THAT DATA should be available for download right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonleg View Post
    It's not rocket science, no. But it IS computer science - all the data relating to the new dungeons, the textures, the new armors, all that? That is NOT going to change just because a small bug is found in how /grouppose works. ALL THAT DATA should be available for download right now.
    You're probably right, but based on your liberal use of the caps lock I think you're way too upset about this. Maybe SE isn't doing things as efficient as they could, but the game is still getting made, the world is still turning, and everyone will still be ok if we get the patch a little later. Its like when you go to a sandwich shop, order, and they say "Sorry, we're all out of honey ham." Could they have done something to ensure they had enough honey ham that day? Probably, but you don't tell them that. You just say "Dang, ok. I'll take a turkey sandwich" and the world goes on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LionFranco View Post
    The patch has to be applied to the live servers before we can download it, and that won't be until the maint is done...it isn't rocket science.
    What nonsense is this? This is not how download servers alongside game servers work. You're right, it's not rocket science and yet people believe (like you) somehow the game servers are tied to patches - you're wrong - simple as.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wade View Post
    What nonsense is this? This is not how download servers alongside game servers work. You're right, it's not rocket science and yet people believe (like you) somehow the game servers are tied to patches - you're wrong - simple as.
    You apparently dont know what you are talking about either. Again, it isnt as simple as flipping a switch, they WONT apply the patch until the maintenance is done, its always been like that, if you cant understand that, well then thats on you. And once they apply the patch and make sure everything is running properly, THEN they will allow the update to be downloaded. You clearly dont know how the process works if you think the downloading of the patch can be done before everything else is ready too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LionFranco View Post
    You apparently dont know what you are talking about either. Again, it isnt as simple as flipping a switch, they WONT apply the patch until the maintenance is done, its always been like that, if you cant understand that, well then thats on you. And once they apply the patch and make sure everything is running properly, THEN they will allow the update to be downloaded. You clearly dont know how the process works if you think the downloading of the patch can be done before everything else is ready too.

    I have downloaded the patch prior to maintenance being completed.
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    Believe what you would like. But the patch won't be up for download until they are ready to put it up.
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