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    BrodyCobalt's Avatar
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    Brody Cobalt
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    LB 3.1 changes are unfair to established teams.

    Dungeons and trials requiring a full party to register via the Duty Finder:

    The Limit Break Gauge will fill more slowly than before for parties with three or more members of the same role.
    source here

    BRD, MCH, BLM and SMN are all lumped in as "ranged DPS" under this new rule, even though BRD/MCH and BLM/SMN fill different functional roles and have different LB's. Existing static teams have had no reason not to have 3 ranged players until now, and raids are beatable with these compositions.

    This change punishes teams for previously valid compositions and forces players to switch roles or lose spots on their teams. I think it's an unfair and unnecessary change.
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Punish? LBs are so heavily underutilized that you can pretty much win 99% of fights without ever needing them. If you really feel like you have to switch roles just to have LBs fill up sooner, then methinks your team needs better coordination.
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    Staris Fate
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    Pretty sure the dps loss from not using 2 melee is greater than the loss from the potential LB change.
    So your probably already doing it wrong.
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    Enyalios Ares
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    I'm sure there's a difference between ranged and casters. The patch notes are just preliminary so quit your butt hurt whining
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enyalios View Post
    I'm sure there's a difference between ranged and casters. The patch notes are just preliminary so quit your butt hurt whining
    The patch notes specifically lumped both casters and physical ranged as "ranged dps", buuuut

    Quote Originally Posted by Staris View Post
    Pretty sure the dps loss from not using 2 melee is greater than the loss from the potential LB change.
    So your probably already doing it wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Punish? LBs are so heavily underutilized that you can pretty much win 99% of fights without ever needing them. If you really feel like you have to switch roles just to have LBs fill up sooner, then methinks your team needs better coordination.
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    If you're using only 1 melee , you're doing it wrong. Thank you and good day.
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    ??? What are these replies even?

    People use different compositions because the people they play with want to play certain jobs. Before I quit raiding, my static consisted of BLM/SMN/BRD so we would've been hit with this nerf as well. Why did it consist of those? Because it's what they wanted to play, and it was fine and perfectly viable until this change. It's legitimately completely unnecessary, all they have to do to fix it is separate BRD/MCH from SMN/BLM. It's not like that composition is OP in any way, as stated in this very thread double melee is stronger.
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    Karuru Karu
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    uh, probably a tactic against solo tank and solo heal. because if you exchange one tank or heal for an DD you will have 3 DDs of the same role.

    can't see any other reason, but it doesn't sound like my idea will work like this xD 5 DDs > LB
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    Rhoden Kenshi
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    Hmm that brings up a good point though. What are they gunna do about solo tank raids like WOD and the up coming void arc? One tank, two heals, and 5 DPS.
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    Ashelia Ferron
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhodkr View Post
    Hmm that brings up a good point though. What are they gunna do about solo tank raids like WOD and the up coming void arc? One tank, two heals, and 5 DPS.
    The patch notes says Dungeons and Trials.

    Void Ark is a Raid
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