Uncap Big Fishing, Please!

[Zhexos]

Have you tried using the skills you learned in 3.0? The new skills should help you catch the big fish easier. However, if it seems like the skills aren't helping, please give us detailed feedback with information such as which big fish you were trying to catch, which bait you were using, during what conditions (weather/time), and the skills used when trying to catch the big fish.

[Gunspec]

Have you tried using the skills you learned in 3.0? The new skills should help you catch the big fish easier. However, if it seems like the skills aren't helping, please give us detailed feedback with information such as which big fish you were trying to catch, which bait you were using, during what conditions (weather/time), and the skills used when trying to catch the big fish.

The 3.0 skills boost the chance to land HQ fish, which speeds up mooching for big fish, but those big fish all have definite gathering chance caps which remain constant even with drastically higher gathering stats from ilevel 180 gear.

Isn't it the same as the Adamantite unspoiled node in 3.0, where you never get more than a 95% gathering chance? Except with some big fish, the gathering chance is probably something more like 40-60% or worse.

[Zorlinta]

Well i havent noticed much diference rather than better hq land mooching. But its just fine as it is, since being better in the job doesnt mean the fish will be dumber
So by sample nepto is not hard to get, just normal catching until get buff (or at least using patience1 and cordials just to keep enough gp for when get buff), then use patience2 while buff is active and chances to get it seems fair. i had caught 4 of 6 neptos that bite then get bored and went other spot.

[VirusChris]

Have you tried using the skills you learned in 3.0? The new skills should help you catch the big fish easier. However, if it seems like the skills aren't helping, please give us detailed feedback with information such as which big fish you were trying to catch, which bait you were using, during what conditions (weather/time), and the skills used when trying to catch the big fish.

I have been using the 3.0 skills along with my Gathering stat at 494 and Perception stat at 444 and I still unable to caught the Titanic Sawfish even when I have all the conditions met and right bait and double mooch, not only do I land a Silver Shark way too often when I DO manage to snag the big fish I get the message "It got away..." which is asinining at times. I kinda wanted to finish the Optional Quests to clear all my quests and possible caught some of the big fish for now... but the way you catch fish even with the new skills and higher stats means nothing when there's a "gathering cap" the prevents you from getting the fish even if you're gear the best.

Which is why I prefer MIN and BTN more, it's not 100% on gathering the more legendary ore but at least I don't have more than a 60% fail rate getting what I want and I don't have to trudge through so much RNG to get the item I want. Better than FFXI I hear, but Fishing could be better in FFXIV.

[Espritduo]

The thing about the Titanic Sawfish is that it is not a Big Fish. You should not have any trouble reeling it in when it does bite, even with 2.0 stats. I rarely ever saw it get away once I had the full i55 HQ set, even back in the days when it was the biggest baddest fish around. If it is constantly "...getting away" you are either trying to reel in the Pirate's Bane (check your buffs a the top of the screen to see if Fisher's Intuition has activated), or you are using the Patience buffs without using Powerful Hookset to reel it in. Patience and Patience II give you a rather hefty penalty to your catch rate that makes catching anything without using the hooksets pretty unmanageable.

[VirusChris]

I don't use Patience I or II sometimes and even still I get the message "it got away" regardless on which fish I snag and I never catch it because of the damn Silver Shark always biting. I wasted over 200 bait and still nothing to get... there's a bloody cap and even if you have 3.0 stat you will NOT get the fish 100% of time even little ones. I do use the Hookset when using Patience but I will get the message "it got away" though most likely when I don't have enough GP to use the Hookset.

Plus I've managed to capture two Pirate's Bane fishes already, just the Titantic Sawfish that refuses to be nabbed by me. I got the Navigator's Brand though, but Titanic Sawfish... nope. I hate the double mooching, at least increase the percent a bit that you're most likely to get the "rarer" fish from double mooching seeing as the Silver Shark can still get snag from either mooching.

[Highwilds]

I don't use Patience I or II sometimes and even still I get the message "it got away" regardless on which fish I snag and I never catch it because of the damn Silver Shark always biting. I wasted over 200 bait and still nothing to get... there's a bloody cap and even if you have 3.0 stat you will NOT get the fish 100% of time even little ones. I do use the Hookset when using Patience but I will get the message "it got away" though most likely when I don't have enough GP to use the Hookset.

Because Patience and Patience II debuff (decreased catch rate) doesn't "wear off" until you lift your rod up again, even if the debuff isn't active on your status bar. Which means you have the chance to get a message "fish got away" with a lvl 5 fish without Precision and Powerful Hooksets. Without Patience/II past lvl 50 with as high gear, none of the pre3.0 non-green fish will/should escape you.

[Almalexia]

The system could stand to be more transparent like the other DoL, especially with the addition of soft-capped rates. eg. legendary nodes cap at 85% regardless of Gathering stat. There's no way to discern this rate as FSH, so the compulsion is to stack Gathering stat to the sky only to find the same lv.59 fish are getting away.

This is even worse for big/legendary fish, which clearly have a gathering penalty on top of the normal gathering rate cap. While Patience II relieves the penalty (Catch and Release), the normal gathering rate cap remains in effect so the player has no point of reference for it's efficacy. At least on MIN, you can see the legendary node go from 85% to 100% when you use a +% skill.

If we're in the mood for suggestions, I recommend re-purposing Fish Eyes to do something in the same vein as the other DoL +% skills. Pay a GP cost to remove the soft cap or add a fixed +% Gathering.

[ShaunBeezle]

Has anybody else ever tried lowering your stats, there was a big fish in churning mists and Azla Lia where I always missed, i lowered my gathering from 525, to 470 by switching rods and boom caught 3 consecutive at each hole. Maybe theres a built in debuff if you have too much stats?

[Highwilds]

Has anybody else ever tried lowering your stats, there was a big fish in churning mists and Azla Lia where I always missed, i lowered my gathering from 525, to 470 by switching rods and boom caught 3 consecutive at each hole. Maybe theres a built in debuff if you have too much stats?

Nah, sadly that's just this game's RNG.

In a comparison to understand the RNG better for fishing it goes pretty much like this; you do Alex normal for a week in a row and you lot below 30 to every item in the loot pool and you get what you want just before reset when everyone else has theirs already. Then the next week you win loot from all four on first runs.