Can we have iLv Requirements for story content?

[Dante_V]

Lots of hyperbole and exaggeration. I'm currently working on my 4th and 5th classes to 60 and have never once seen a person with an average i90 ilvl in the library. Maybe a piece of i90 gear but that isn't enough to make or break anything. Just about every single one of these dungeons can be completed in ilvl 130 gear fairly easily.

There's also the fact that ilvl isn't an accurate of stat allocation. There are some 130 pieces that have greater stat weights than higher ilvl pieces. In fact most of the poetics gear doesn't even become outdated until 55 -57 dungeon range but even then it's negligible.

[Dante_V]

A more simple option would be if you see someone who is undergeared and can't hold there own is to inform them of how they can upgrade their gear. If they are absolutely detrimental to your run then kick them. The reason there isn't a min ilvl requirement for leveling dungeons is because there doesn't need to be. The people going into these instances "vastly undergeared" are an absolute extreme minority of players.

[CGMidlander]

A more simple option would be if you see someone who is undergeared and can't hold there own is to inform them of how they can upgrade their gear. If they are absolutely detrimental to your run then kick them. The reason there isn't a min ilvl requirement for leveling dungeons is because there doesn't need to be. The people going into these instances "vastly undergeared" are an absolute extreme minority of players.

A visible minority.
I've had more healers and tanks who were woefully inadequate for Dusk Vigil alone than I can count on my hands and feet.

I still remember one particular tank who was in NQ i70 Darksteel quite well...

...speaking of NQ stuff; I think SE should either lower the ilvl or shrink the gap between NQ and HQ stuff. NQ stuff is very misleading for less serious players. For example, i115 NQ stuff is worse than blue/HQ i90 stuff.



And don't get me started on the trash DPS in BisHM.

[Niwashi]

There's also the fact that ilvl isn't an accurate of stat allocation. There are some 130 pieces that have greater stat weights than higher ilvl pieces.

...speaking of NQ stuff; I think SE should either lower the ilvl or shrink the gap between NQ and HQ stuff. NQ stuff is very misleading for less serious players. For example, i115 NQ stuff is worse than blue/HQ i90 stuff.

There's a lot SE could do to improve the Item Level valuations, both on individual pieces of gear (especially the difference between NQ & HQ, but some other cases as well) and on how the average is calculated (which should really be a weighted average with more important slots counting for more of the overall score).

[Ryios]

Instead of putting an IL requirement on it, they should make the dungeon que system weight your place in the que by your item level in a bracket average.

For example,

#1 10-15
#2 16-20
#3 25-35
#5 36-45
#6 46-60

Etc

So let's say you are level 40 with an il of 42, that would place you in bracket 5. You joint he dungeon que and there is a dps in line before you for the same dungeon (same level) but is in bracket 4.. You would butt in line because your IL bracket gave you higher priority.

Of course this should also be capped to the dungeon. So if the dungeon's considered to be il 45, having an IL over 45 would not allow you to pass bracket 5, meaning bracket 5 would be the highest bracket for that dungeon.

Then everyone get's qued with people in similar gear and no IL abuse windows are opened. And people would be rewarded with faster ques for taking the time to get gear. However it would still be possible for bracket 4 to que first if bracket 4 has the only tank available. And we should be able to check a check box "Join lower gear brackets" that would allow you to que like the system is right now.

[Nadirah]

Wait, you can buy boost from lvl 59 to 60 on maket boards or from NPC? :P Of course I meant that I dislike tanking it as lvl 59 for lvl 60 players. I take my enmity too seriously for that.



I would rather have the iLevel lock, because there are also problems with not-supported languages and these players might suffer due to the language barrier. Experience loss isn't as visible as iLvl locked content.

I never had problems holding hate in Library against level 60 players in full Alex gear on my PLD while leveling, maybe you need to work on your rotation? idk

[Archaell]

I never had problems holding hate in Library against level 60 players in full Alex gear on my PLD while leveling, maybe you need to work on your rotation? idk

Maybe you are too good for your own good. Here take a cookie.

[Ashkendor]

I never had problems holding hate in Library against level 60 players in full Alex gear on my PLD while leveling, maybe you need to work on your rotation? idk

Or maybe those DPS players were bad. Maybe they just knew how to hold back for an undergeared tank.

Without context, your statement is meaningless.

[Nadirah]

Or maybe those DPS players were bad. Maybe they just knew how to hold back for an undergeared tank.

Without context, your statement is meaningless.

I did my vault/library grind with members of my static who were going full out *trying* to pull hate.

Only way you're losing hate in Library at 59 is by sitting in DPS stance the entire time, forgetting you have Flash, or by being bad in general.

[Felis]

...speaking of NQ stuff; I think SE should either lower the ilvl or shrink the gap between NQ and HQ stuff. NQ stuff is very misleading for less serious players. For example, i115 NQ stuff is worse than blue/HQ i90 stuff.

Rainbow Bolero Of Striking NQ (ilevel 115, MNK body)

Defense 83, Magic Defense 83
Strength 38
Vitality 44
Determination 19
Skill Speed 38


Melee Cyclas non-craftet (ilevel 90, MNK boy)

Defense 86, Magic Defense 86
Strength 29
Vitality 33
Skill Speed 24
Accuracy 34

Sure, def and mdef is not so good on NQ, but the 2 main stats str and vit are still better on the ilevel 115 gear (around 10 points more than on the ilevel 90 gear)

NQ is average gear with stats not on the ilevel specific cap (can increase the stats still with materia), while on HQ the stats are on the ilevel specific cap or near of it (materias of the same stats give +0, use materia to increase a new stat)