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    Can we have iLv Requirements for story content?

    It may be too late for Heavensward instances (unless they patch it in later), but in future expansions can we please have item level requirements for dungeons and trials? Many players aren't gearing their characters before entering a duty, for whatever reason that may be. In some cases this is detrimental to the success of the group, particularly where DPS checks are tight.
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    minimum ilevel on leveling dungeons would result in highest minimum ilevel for low level roulette (like in expert roulette and high level roulette), or people will manipulate the roulette with low ilevel gear (don't want Aurun Vale? Keep your ilevel lower than 48).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    minimum ilevel on leveling dungeons would result in highest minimum ilevel for low level roulette (like in expert roulette and high level roulette), or people will manipulate the roulette with low ilevel gear (don't want Aurun Vale? Keep your ilevel lower than 48).
    Yeah... unfortunately I can see where it'd be exploitable the same way that queueing with other people would be. This wouldn't even be an issue if people would actually bother to upgrade their gear. I'm always afraid of people showing up in Dusk Vigil in i90 gear (or even worse, the i50/55 AF gear) after a few awful experiences in there, so now I generally only queue leveling dungeons in premades. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    Yeah... unfortunately I can see where it'd be exploitable the same way that queueing with other people would be. This wouldn't even be an issue if people would actually bother to upgrade their gear. I'm always afraid of people showing up in Dusk Vigil in i90 gear (or even worse, the i50/55 AF gear) after a few awful experiences in there, so now I generally only queue leveling dungeons in premades. :/
    It is not going to help, but i90 guys are going as far as the Vault on regular basis... they might be doing even Library, but I don't like the way gear works in there so I don't farm it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archaell View Post
    It is not going to help, but i90 guys are going as far as the Vault on regular basis... they migth be doing even Library, but I don't like the way gear works in there so I don't farm it.
    I don't even know how anyone makes it that far in i90 gear, seriously. I can't even say FATEs because the HW FATEs are tanky as hell and if you're using an i90 weapon you mayaswell be hitting the thing with a Nerf sword. Getting carried in FATE parties?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archaell View Post
    It is not going to help, but i90 guys are going as far as the Vault on regular basis... they might be doing even Library, but I don't like the way gear works in there so I don't farm it.
    You don't have to farm it if you can just buy it in the market board or from a NPC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    minimum ilevel on leveling dungeons would result in highest minimum ilevel for low level roulette (like in expert roulette and high level roulette), or people will manipulate the roulette with low ilevel gear (don't want Aurun Vale? Keep your ilevel lower than 48).
    They could make the iLv req for the entire roulette (and not what dungeon you can be placed into) to scale with the job lvl. For instance, a Lv 54 job would need to be 120 to access the roulette and a Lv 40 jobs would need somewhere around i30-35 to enter the roulette.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gokuhan View Post
    They could make the iLv req for the entire roulette (and not what dungeon you can be placed into) to scale with the job lvl.
    I could imagine this to become reaaaally annoying. "I just spent 100k to upgrade my 56 gear for the roulette, now I can...Tam-Tara again ._.' "

    Personally, I think everything that needs a certain equipment standard to be completed needs a matching iLvL requirement. Minimum iLvL requirements serve the purpose of ensuring a clear is possible, so if the dungeon/trial can not be completed in the given timeframe if everyone sports your level of gear, you need to upgrade. If it can, upgrading is a courtesy, not a necessity.

    That said, this sort of gearcheck should indeed use a weighted average and consider stats as well es effective iLvL. White NQ =/= HQ =/= Green =/= Blue after all, despite the iLvL being identical.

    It's simply a matter of protection. Any four people should be able to clear the dungeon and if RNGesus decides to put four terribly undergeared players together, that clear is no longer possible.
    Convenience is irrelevant IMO. iLvL 200+ in Fractal/Neverreap is nice, but 145 suffices (Even though people groan and sometimes leave if they see it). In the same vein, it's nice if someone is wholly up to date with their gear in leveling dungeons, but it suffices if they just aren't terribly behind.
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    All the instances should have iLvl req. imo

    There are too many players who don't care unless there is a gate in front of them so give them the gate. Also because there are too many exploiters, who would start wearing incorrect gear, the ilvl req. should be combined with stat requirements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archaell View Post
    All the instances should have iLvl req. imo

    There are too many players who don't care unless there is a gate in front of them so give them the gate. Also because there are too many exploiters, who would start wearing incorrect gear, the ilvl req. should be combined with stat requirements.
    I agree with this. This is for story content and i agree 1 too many times i have ran into undergeared players who do slow down runs. undergeared tanks who are a pain to cure, under geared dps who make tanking a pain cuz stuff dies to slowly, and undergeared healer who can't keep up with cures.

    Too many times i have seen people in the great library with level 51 weapons and ironworks gear.
    Most excuses i hear is "this ant savage who cares"

    Keeping your gear up to date is literally rpg 101. I also propose each dungeon has a 1 time gear check quest for each class/job in order to do the dungeon you get gil/exp for completing said quest.

    There is no excuse for doing dungeons story mode or not while being undergeared. It just lazy.
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    Last edited by Azazua_azura; 11-03-2015 at 02:24 AM.

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