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    Yeah I think the balance would have to swing pretty far still for us to be pushing it the other way. The Ascians don't strike me as individuals that seem particularly dedicated to balance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    Yeah I think the balance would have to swing pretty far still for us to be pushing it the other way. The Ascians don't strike me as individuals that seem particularly dedicated to balance.
    Where there is light must be darkness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    Warriors of darkness are not "bad guys" or have you never played FF3? You could read the story...
    EDIT: The Warriors of light/darkness come when there is an imbalance of one side. Square uses a LOT of balance, ying yang in their stories. Just because they are "darkness" does not make them evil >.>.
    So if they are not evil, why do we need to have a faction VS faction for them? Because we can't agree on what faction we like more? And if you are going to cite FF3 for a reference, at least get it right; you don't fight the WODs in that game just because they're not with the light and they actually help you out in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KyahAlmasy View Post
    After rewatching the cutscene I'm extremely confident that the warrior of darkness that we'll encounter in the story will be our dopplegangers.
    As much as I would love that, SE could've just palette swap him during that Cut-scene with our character. I think Mr. Derplander well be the rep for WoD as well as his gang. The cut-scene with the bishop still makes me wonder tho. Even tho we are the WoL, is there also a darkness we are building up as well? Maybe something will happen we'll be split into "2 beings." It would be a nice opportunity for...
    DRKs who completed the Lv50 Quest, to get reacquainted with "our" darker selves.
    But for now, I'm sure it will be Derppy and his gang for the time being. They could always add a sixth member during the course of the expansion lol.
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  5. #145
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    Where there is light must be darkness.
    That's a theme that is actually brought up a lot in various places in questing in HW. Infact DRK literally use their own inner darkness to fight.

    However in the overall balance of the world, I wouldn't say the Light is winning. Frankly we seem to spend most of our time as the WoL trying desperately to plug leaks and frankly we have come into a game here the Ascians have been playing for thousands of years. Considering the shear level of destruction the Ascians have unleashed and their talk about returning the world to Darkness, I don't think balance is what they are aiming for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    WoL and WoD
    That could be a possibility. They know we are going growing too strong, so they might be trying to stop it now before the balance begins to shift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    That's a theme that is actually brought up a lot in various places in questing in HW. Infact DRK literally use their own inner darkness to fight.

    However in the overall balance of the world, I wouldn't say the Light is winning. Frankly we seem to spend most of our time as the WoL trying desperately to plug leaks and frankly we have come into a game here the Ascians have been playing for thousands of years. Considering the shear level of destruction the Ascians have unleashed and their talk about returning the world to Darkness, I don't think balance is what they are aiming for.
    Not to mention that their little emissary doesn't seem to want to do anything to stop his brethren from causing shenanigans to the world, despite him having a hard on for "balance".
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  8. #148
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990 View Post
    That could be a possibility. They know we are going growing too strong, so they might be trying to stop it now before the balance begins to shift.
    Possibly. Its interesting this just happens to coincide with the point where there manipulation of us starts to lose traction and we become more of a liability than an useful tool to them.

    Again, while balance is undoubtedly an important factor, I doubt the motivations of the Ascians necessarily are that interested in balance or if balance is their goal, that a state of balance is going to be good for anyone currently living on the planet. The Ascians seem to have little concern with the wellbeing of people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    That's a theme that is actually brought up a lot in various places in questing in HW. Infact DRK literally use their own inner darkness to fight.

    However in the overall balance of the world, I wouldn't say the Light is winning. Frankly we seem to spend most of our time as the WoL trying desperately to plug leaks and frankly we have come into a game here the Ascians have been playing for thousands of years. Considering the shear level of destruction the Ascians have unleashed and their talk about returning the world to Darkness, I don't think balance is what they are aiming for.
    While we're desperately trying to plug leaks, it seems that we are becoming out of balance ourselves. After we defeat Thordan, he looks at us and says "How?...A millennium of prayer combined with the eyes power... And still you stand? Who...What are you!?"

    As if no mortal should have had the sort of power that could stop him. Like we're slowly reaching godly status.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990 View Post
    Omg, I remember my Divine Might run like it was yesterday.... So much pain but at least I got my earrings from it ^_^.

    Taru was a BLM/RDM, Hume was a WAR/NIN, Galka was a SAM/DRG, Mithra was a BST/THF, and Elvaan was a PLD/WHM. All with both Job's 2hrs, (At the time DRG's 2hrs was to summon your Dragon Pet...) So much fun in that fight. Not only was it optional, but it counted as completing ZM 11 as well.

    Such an awesome track as well.

    Fighters of the Crystal
    heck yeh, they too were referred to as warriors of the crystal, as well as the player character, the contrasting darkness to our light.
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