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    Player Hypie's Avatar
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    I pretty much think that its the NPC WoL of 1.0. Why they became the WoD and the Legacy Players are not is easily explained. We were stronger and didn't succumb to the Darkness. We were not alone. Maybe the Ascians waited exactly for them to corrupt them or whatever. There are many Ways why the Legacy Players did not became Baddies but the NPC WoL did.

    But honestly i can't understand Hydaelyn. It's always written that, if the Light grows stronger the Shadow will be longer/darker. Light and Dark always coexist. Maybe we have a already "not sane" Hydaelyn who wants to flood the World with Light? How can we know that we are doing the is right Thing?

    So im not really comfortable being such a powerful being. Like the Ascian stated it makes us less human and more like a godly being.
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    or maybe they're simply the chosen warrior of zodiark.
    like he was watching eorzea one day and saw a random warrior and went "you, I like you. want a job?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    or maybe they're simply the chosen warrior of zodiark.
    like he was watching eorzea one day and saw a random warrior and went "you, I like you. want a job?"
    I wonder if he needs to do "run, fetch, talk, kill" quests too so that his power of darkness grows lol xD

    Or would it be like "Heal up 5 Goblins that were beaten up by the WoL"? XD
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    Guys the final cutesene with the WoD, who is gonna be its preatty clear. The fact that we see a dark derplander ( the default WoL" Us" ) its clearly a way to saing us that the WoD is gonna be the WoL (us ) is oposite representation, your negative, our positive aka evil twin, its really clear. Just beacuse we see "dearpy dark" over there odesnt mean that the guys we saw on the mvoie trailers are gonna be the WoD.
    We all know by far that the guy we saw on the movies is the WoL, nothing much to be said about it. So I stand on my point that the WoD is gooa be a dark/oposite version of our WoL, its entirely possible.
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    Here's my take on what seen so far. All those with the echo were once 'gods' primals/eikons and the allagans found a way to strip them of their power forcing them to join the mortal cycle of rebirth through the lifestream yet the allagens could not remove the power of the echo completely so while the old gods were now bound by life and death within the lifestream and forced to live mortal lives being reborn and aging like a mortal would, the echo remains throughout the cycles/rebirth. The old gods themselves now bound to mortal lives have over the past 5000 years forgotten who they once were.

    I think the ascians who were also once former test subjects, gods that were stripped of their primal power but zodiark reminded them and helped them seek revenge while hydaelyn tried to bury the past and keep the old gods in ignorance for the purpose of keeping them subdued and peaceful. The two ascians at the end of the storyline dungeon which tried to use the echo to become more powerful and merging was an attempt to use the echo to become once more the primal(s) they once were but failed to fully regain that power. I don't think SE will allow our characters to regain our old god/primal status though no matter what happens but I imagine they will have the story show probably an ascian regain his primal powers from the echo at some stage while plot wise they will probably have ours 'choose' to remain mortal, living through life cycles with loved ones, being with them as mortals whom to share lives, bonds, friendships with.

    The WoL and WoD is the same primal/old god and is another test subject from the allagans attempt to control the primals, the old god being split into WoL/WoD but neither of them are actually good/evil or light/dark...rather one found out the truth and now seeks revenge while the other aka our current WoL still lives in ignorance. Hydaelyn is manipulating our current WoL and hydaelyn also manipulated the previous WoL (now WoD) during the period of 1.0. The ascians side with zodiark however have since shown the previous WoL the truth about who and what he once was and in doing so he/she turned/changed.

    Though WoD probably still feels like is doing the right thing after finding out the truth but the real truth is that the previous WoL (now WoD) is still being manipulated but this time not by hydaelyn, but instead by ascians/zodiark while current WoL is being manipulated by hydaelyn still and has yet to find out the truth. I think at some stage in future storyline the current WoL will find out the truth when meets time and time again in combat the WoD and at some point will be told by him/her. Then over the course of content they will resolve their differences in how to handle that truth, becoming one sole entity again only from the point on would be free from the manipulations of hydaelyn and zodiark, forging their own path this time not through ignorance (WoL) or revenge (WoD).
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    To get really out there: We know multiple universes exists in FF, and that the void connects them. Its how Gilgamesh can be the same incarnation in each game. What if the Derplander we see is actually an alternate universe one, while the one in the trailers and promotion and all is one who stays a Warrior of Light? What if maybe in his version an alternate version of one of his companions is the WoD he has to fight?

    What if in 4.0, we end up meeting that same Derplander WoL, claiming that he defeated us, the WoD? Just throwin things out there, hopefully we learn more at 3.1.
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    My money is on the Warrior of Darkness and his crew being just like the Ark Angels from FFXI. I mean in look and probably whatever fight they cook up. A lot of FFXI (armor, mobs, aesthetics etc.) seems to be gradually making its way into FFXIV and that's not a bad thing. I was super happy to see crawlers and dhalmels
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    Personally hoping that derplander was just a stand in and that the real WoD will be a darker version of our own characters. Thought since the game is fully out and it was derplander, in stead of us, that leads me to believe that it will actually be him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
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    Emm..... Did you play this game? Beacuse I dont have a clue of what you are saing

    Quote Originally Posted by Mimiru_S View Post
    Personally hoping that derplander was just a stand in and that the real WoD will be a darker version of our own characters. Thought since the game is fully out and it was derplander, in stead of us, that leads me to believe that it will actually be him.
    The fact that is a dark derplander makes be even more agreed on that the WoD is gonna be our oposite represetation. Why SE didnt showed us ? beacuse SE is SE, they only gave us a clue. We all know so far about the "clues" on FFXIV, they arent gonna gives the full information just now jajajajaja xD
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    Last edited by Frederick22; 06-28-2015 at 12:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taban View Post
    My guess is that the warrior of darkness is just going to be our analogue created by Zodiark. I don't think our warriors of light are actual people blessed by hydaelyn, but is more a living construct created by her to enact her will. In the 2.0 intro "hear, feel, think" she was in the process of creating us at that point. If zodiark is the dark version of hydaelyn it wouldn't be a stretch for him to create a warrior in the same way.
    Or what if we're actually a primal that fulfils the prays/hopes of the people, of the realm and the games story ends with our characters destroying themselves.
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