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    Nektulos-Tuor's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    If your DPS is down close to Paladin, you're doing DRK so wrong that I don't even know where to begin.
    I said closer. As in below warrior but above paladin.

    Quote Originally Posted by Freyyy View Post
    Please, please.

    You're the only one saying that here. DRKs are competing with WARs in some situations (when MTing A3S out of Grit for example you can get higher than your OT Deliverance WAR) and when they are not, they are really damn close to them. For example I'm a main DRK myself and on A3S I very often end the phase 2 (when the hands reunite and transform into tornado) at around 1050 DPS at equal feet with my OT WAR mate (we're still on last phase, the boss will soon be dead). Sometimes I'm a bit above, sometimes it's him. We both feel that we could both do higher than that (and we will with i210 left side upgrades). Same for A1S, I tank it out of Grit except for busters, he's full time Deliverance, and we end the fight at equal feet. We have the exact same left side ilvl, and exact same jewelry and melds on right side. You are the bad DRK here, the job has good nasty good DPS when MTing. And when doing pure DPS in the OT role without any Reprisal and Low Blow reset, DRK is still pretty damn closer to WAR than PLD.

    Heck, a simple look at fflogs would tell you that you're wrong. Accept the damn truth and git gud or get rekt.
    Here we have a post with a flexing Epeen. Look, take a look at Warriors abilities. Now look at Dark Knights. If both Tanks are equally geared and facing a single target it is impossible for a Warrior to lose to a Dark Knight. Warriors just get so many more offensive buffs and attacks, its not even a comparison. Now, on an AOE fight? I will agree, Dark Knight may win an AOE fight. However on a single target? No.

    Here is your "fflogs" comparison:



    OH LOOK, TALATHION WAS RIGHT IT WAS EXACTLY AS HE SAID IT WAS! *GASP* I SHOULD PROBABLY GET GUD!

    Quote Originally Posted by dank1 View Post
    I actually outdps most warriors so I won't speak here.
    I'll hop on the DRK is underpowered train so we get buffed even more tho
    My healer can out parse DPS classes some times, its not a thing you should balance it around.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 11-01-2015 at 08:13 AM.

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    Freyja Redgold
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Look, take a look at Warriors abilities. Now look at Dark Knights. If both Tanks are equally geared and facing a single target it is impossible for a Warrior to lose to a Dark Knight. Warriors just get so many more offensive buffs and attacks, its not even a comparison.
    DRK has the highest potencies on his combos, DRK has the most offensive oGCDs, and he gains even more while MTing (from BP + Reprisal + Low Blow, and if you MT out of Grit, you get all of that + Blood Weapon). You seem to not be able to understand that. Yeah we don't have Berserk or FoF. But look at our fucking base potencies, look at our DoTs, look at all that offensive arsenal we have. It compensates. Not completely because yeah, WAR is still ahead, but not that far, and can sometimes be a little bit below if the DRK has a good Low Blow proc rate. I never said it happened all the time, I never said that DRK was better than WAR, no, WAR is stronger, but what you were saying was that basically DRK was closer to PLD than WAR, which is entirely false and I was arguing against that. Your screenshot from fflogs only confirms my point. DRK is a little bit weaker, but can compete sometimes and parse pretty close to WAR, especially when MTing a fight where the boss has moderate to high speed physical attacks (like A3S). PLD, while also being able to put out good numbers, is pretty far below. DRK has the advantage of being the highest MT DPS out of the 3 tanks and by quite a good margin. That's not negligible. DRK doesn't need help DPS-wise.
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    Lol, your own reply post proved you wrong. But yeah, like I said drk is doing close to warrior numbers, if your not then your not playing drk correctly. Drk doesn't need a buff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    I said closer. As in below warrior but above paladin.
    That's not the impression I got from your statement at all. You said:

    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    No, its DPS is actually close down to Paladins. Warrior are way above us both.
    but your own image shows DRK is closer to WAR than it is to PLD.



    Keep in mind that a DRK in tank stance has higher DPS than a WAR in tank stance. WAR wins out as OT, though.

    Either way, DRK doesn't need buffs. PLD does.
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    Last edited by Ashkendor; 11-01-2015 at 07:02 PM.