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  1. #111
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    Ranzan's Avatar
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    Kheima Rayne
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    I don't understand the hate for solo FCs. Is because it's a solo FC with a house? There could be countless circumstances why 5hy are the sole survivor of their FC. Hell the one restriction can help FCS with no house get access to the hard mode explorarion.
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  2. #112
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    Charlotte Elise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranzan View Post
    I don't understand the hate for solo FCs. Is because it's a solo FC with a house? There could be countless circumstances why 5hy are the sole survivor of their FC. Hell the one restriction can help FCS with no house get access to the hard mode explorarion.
    You and me both.

    How does this affect you in anyway? You still have the ability to group up with FC members and close friends, you'd still have an advantage in that you wouldn't have to risk partying with people who have zero clue about what they're doing, and when most of your FC is offline you can host expeditions with randoms instead of wasting time doing nothing.
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  3. #113
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    The hate for solo FCs comes from exploiting imo.

    You need three players to create it. Imagine the riots if FCs got disbanded if there were less active members (accounts not alts).

    And of course there are the players who started FC to get a house... yet again exploit, which prevented many real FCs to own their property.

    No wonder players don't like solo FCs.
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archaell View Post
    The hate for solo FCs comes from exploiting imo.

    You need three players to create it. Imagine the riots if FCs got disbanded if there were less active members (accounts not alts).

    And of course there are the players who started FC to get a house... yet again exploit, which prevented many real FCs to own their property.

    No wonder players don't like solo FCs.
    Okay, and how does that apply to the sitatuion now? Any individual player can own a house, and an unlimited amount of FCs can be made. What exploits are possible with 1 man FCs, if you don't mind sharing? If they're holding a grudge towards some people who used it before personal housing was implemented, get over it.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Okay, and how does that apply to the sitatuion now? Any individual player can own a house, and an unlimited amount of FCs can be made. What exploits are possible with 1 man FCs, if you don't mind sharing? If they're holding a grudge towards some people who used it before personal housing was implemented, get over it.
    That solo FC players mind sharing. It goes against the spirit of the community. At least that's how I understand it.

    Even though there is personal housing available, the fact is that one player is still eating the space for real FCs, while even getting access to the "FC" content. I am not surprised that there is public disapproval going on.
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archaell View Post
    That solo FC players mind sharing. It goes against the spirit of the community. At least that's how I understand it.

    Even though there is personal housing available, the fact is that one player is still eating the space for real FCs, while even getting access to the "FC" content. I am not surprised that there is public disapproval going on.
    Well I don't know about this spirit of the community nonsense, but there are many reasons why a player may not want to be in an "open" FC and stick to a personal one. I started my own FC awhile back with a few friends I know outside of the game after I got sick of the needless drama, I eventually joined a nice FC, the one that I'm in right now. Now, if I didn't know any other people that played the game, I would have gone without an FC or started my own without any other players. I mean, why not? Extra XP, 30% off teleports, all that great stuff, and to top it off there was housing.

    That player is not "eating" any space, personal housing and FC housing is shared, if the player hadn't snatched it someone else would have before that FC. I find it funny how people claim this "spirit of the community" but then are so aggressive to people "stealing" their houses, but that's not the fault of the players, it's SE's. People are bound to get envious when it comes to such a limited thing.
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Well I don't know about this spirit of the community nonsense, but there are many reasons why a player may not want to be in an "open" FC and stick to a personal one. I started my own FC awhile back with a few friends I know outside of the game after I got sick of the needless drama, I eventually joined a nice FC, the one that I'm in right now. Now, if I didn't know any other people that played the game, I would have gone without an FC or started my own without any other players. I mean, why not? Extra XP, 30% off teleports, all that great stuff, and to top it off there was housing.
    Good point. Here also comes the question if all these advantages of FC aren't reward for being social with other players... for example FC chest can save you fee for additional retainer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    That player is not "eating" any space, personal housing and FC housing is shared, if the player hadn't snatched it someone else would have before that FC. I find it funny how people claim this "spirit of the community" but then are so aggressive to people "stealing" their houses, but that's not the fault of the players, it's SE's. People are bound to get envious when it comes to such a limited thing.
    Yeah. Were it not for the limited supply of houses, the community wouldn't care as much about this topic.
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  8. #118
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    Ociela Koslun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archaell View Post
    Good point. Here also comes the question if all these advantages of FC aren't reward for being social with other players... for example FC chest can save you fee for additional retainer.



    Yeah. Were it not for the limited supply of houses, the community wouldn't care as much about this topic.
    Ermm... The FC rewards are simply for doing anything productive while playing the game, with a minor favorance for doing things that earn GC seals. Mostly a meter for, how much do they play. Since mine was basically gotten from 1-8 from getting rid of the greed loot from 2-4 ex roulettes a day... Also the social/community aspect could very well get worse if anything in a game was ACTUALLY locked by cliques. Since well it would promote exclusion and NOT interacting with others since you wouldnt be able to do things with them anyways. But akas just a possibility not set in stone. Also i feel this thread has been derailing since the SE POST...
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  10. #119
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    SchalaZeal's Avatar
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    Schala Zeal
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    How do you guys takes turns for putting up your chocobo in the stable, and to garden? How will you make it with 4 airships, with an FC of 200+ ?
    512 slots in the stable. What about taking turns? Max slots FC: 512. Max slots stable: 512.

    My FC has 73 members, including people who didn't log in 200 days (leader is against kicking until we lack room). Let's say 40 of them logged in the last month, and 20 in the last day. That's not a huge FC, but it has more than a single member. Peak times we get 10-15 online. Dead times we get 3-4. I also didn't like zerg 300 or even 512 members FCs, which our FC is far from. Also to someone who said statics must be apart from FC (like in LS), well no they don't have to be.

    Edit: Also 24-man content not tuned to be as hard as 8-man hard raid is plenty. We don't need 100-man content that 99.9% of FCs won't even be able to *think* about doing.
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    Last edited by SchalaZeal; 11-01-2015 at 04:55 AM.
    Summoner first, Scholar second...but mainly crafter.

  11. #120
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    Balmung Griffin
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    It would be cool if we got some incentive to do stuff as a FC beside FC actions.

    We have stats bonus for being in party, can't we have a bigger bonus (or something different: LB charging faster, better drop rates, battle fever etc) if all our party members are FC members, a Free Company Sync, perhaps?

    We could also apply that for crafting with a slight % up of proc on "good" or % of recovering mats with failure. Gathering could have greater chance of "yield +" and other bonus.

    Geez, anything that bring some relevancy to REAL free companies.
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