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  1. #431
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    nerfing war dont mean leave the other 2, whe have 3 tanks and this game need all combinations of tanks can be choosen for raid conten, meaby a especific turn a conbination is better than other yes, but war now no matter how you buff paladin or change the drk war have the best active mitigation, the best base dps, the best self heals and the best burst dps plus raid utility.

    of course is not only a matter of tanks problem the actual conten dont help at all, but if you change the conten you need make a very specific boss fight to make drk pld combo aviable, so no1 say change the war complety is only a question of numbers.
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  2. #432
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    Morningstar1337's Avatar
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    Aurora Aura
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    A Paradigm Shift

    I have my own question for this topic, In 2.0 there were two specific classes that were both Casters, but not healers. Black Mage and Summoner. The former's forte was Area of Effect attacks (Fire II, Blizzard II, Freeze and Flare). Conversely the Summoner's forte was single target AoEs such as Bio, Bio II and Miasma. In 3.0 The two swapped roles. while they are still effective in their former roles, Dreadwyrm Trance and Enochian, and the spells they unlock or enhance changed their playstyle so they they became superior on the others role in comparison to their own. BLM was "eased" into this by the nerfing of their AoE Spells and the buffs to their single target spells even before the expansion

    Suppose Warrior was subjected to a similar fate, being focused on being the Meat Shield fantasy instead of the traditional archetype, while Paladin or more appropriately, Dark Knight became more DPS focused in comparison to Warrior. Would you want such a change?
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    Last edited by Morningstar1337; 10-27-2015 at 04:34 PM.

  3. #433
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    u can buff or nerf what every u want until the warrior still has enough defence cds to do the content and is the better dps cuz its the intention of WAR .always crying here ^^
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  4. #434
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    Suppose Warrior was subjected to a similar fate, being focused on being the Meat Shield fantasy instead of the traditional archetype, while Paladin or more appropriately, Dark Knight became more DPS focused in comparison to Warrior. Would you want such a change?
    As long as there's a variance in damage, there will continue to be issues. I'd want the end result to be that all tanks in the roster contribute equally numbers-wise so that it doesn't matter what combination of tanks you bring to a raid. Let the gameplay and mechanics make the tanks stand out from one another, not damage/mitigation/utility.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

  5. #435
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    Id like to see them balance the tanks. This means one could still have a small advantage over another in different situations but not a huge gap like there is now. Ive noticed a ton of pallys rerolling warrior. Im not sure this was their intention. However Im opposed to nerfs. Hopefully they can figure something out.
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  6. #436
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    I love the Party Finder recruitment roulette that is currently going on... atleast on my server:
    2 weeks ago 10 "LF Warrior" 5 "LF SCH"
    Last Week 8 "LF Caster"
    This week 5 "LF PLD/DRK"

    I guess there is no point in rerolling at all only if you are in a static and adjust
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  7. #437
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    If they nerf WAR, the nerf should just be you can't Esuna/Leeches Berserk.
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  8. #438
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    Just remove the DMG Debuff from Storm Path. As much as I see it, the reason because there MUST be a Warrior in your party is this specific Debuff. Therefor it should be removed or bosses are immune. Same as Paladin Pacification doesn`t work on Bosses, to not make him mandatory for every party.

    Buff PLD DMG around 10% and all three Tanks are balanced.
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  9. #439
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheraa View Post
    Just remove the DMG Debuff from Storm Path. As much as I see it, the reason because there MUST be a Warrior in your party is this specific Debuff. Therefor it should be removed or bosses are immune. Same as Paladin Pacification doesn`t work on Bosses, to not make him mandatory for every party.

    Buff PLD DMG around 10% and all three Tanks are balanced.
    Path isn't even why we bring WARs. It's more Eye + their superior DPS.
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  10. #440
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    Every time this thread makes it to the front page a kitten/puppy/baby rhino dies.

    Lets stop the cycle of abuse people. Lets kill this thread with napalm.

    This has been a public service announcement brought to you by:

    The Git Gud foundation
    The Stop Crying collaborative

    And

    The OMFG WAR is not OP charitable trust.
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