Immersion, The Facts & Fiction

[Konachibi]

thats because people on here have extremest views. Which is one of the reasons the game won't do well.
Harry potter is one of the most successful rip-offs of all time
star wars TOR has over 1million beta signups and is nearing or over 500k preorders now - Age Of conan has over 2 million players but is still regarded a failure
Shadow of the Colossus was a hit and is thought of as a classic and it forced people to walk around without even having enemies in the world. - I've never played it and don't really want to.

I provided you with multiple -real life- success stories to back up my arguments, but you argue "i dont think people really like those things" even though they have been far more successful than FFXIV. - I have never mentioned FFXIV as being a success, I have said that I think it could be a success in the future, but it is not in it's current state

Immersion is something created by the game devs. Its what brings a game a good review. If this wasn't true than games would be reviewed on gameplay alone, and they are not. - Are you still argueing this? Seriously? Are you that small minded?

I actually provided real arguments, quotes, and links to games that were a success based on immersion and you just said "no one agrees with you" - I said no one agrees with you because of your inability to face rality and see fact as fact instead of continuing to argue with it, which you STILL are. It was not the links or games I was saying no one agreed with, it was your attitude.

Although the quotes i showed, clearly shows people who -study- the field do.... - Yes and it's these people who 'studied the field' that said Michael Jackson's Moonwalker wasn't good enough to market to cinema, it went straight to video in the US, and became one of the fastest selling movies of it's time

Now stop mentioning immersion. you have proven time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time again that you have no understanding on how to how to use it properly, we have pointed this out to you, and you are still using it. You are making yourself look worse with every post, STOP.

If you wish to contribute to this thread now, then perhaps offer suggestions or ideas on what S.E could add to it to make it more immersive for the player (subjectively). That's add to it, not remove from it.
People already complained about enough stuff that's been removed from the game, and removing more stuff will only make everything worse.
If we can offer to S.E suggestions on things to add to the game they may consider them and impliment them in a future patch. Sitting around argueing on a thread about something won't get their attention nor offer anything good to this forum.
If you offer a suggestion I will share with you my opinion of your suggestion along with possible suggestions that could enhance it further if I can think of any, or I would offer a suggestion of my own.

If your next post is another rant about immersion in games and movies and books and such then I'll simply take it that you've become a troll and will report you to S.E for being one.

If your next post is an idea as to the improvement of the game however, then I will apologise for anything I've said in the past that made have seemed rude or insulting.

I can't say fairer than this.