So all new items are worthless after 3 months?

[Cycloptichorn]

Holy cow. Level 14 PGL.

You gonna tell me the same thing?

I totally agree with Vawn. Maybe you could, I dunno, calm down a bit on the outrage at the idea that some other player, at some point, is going to have something that you worked hard for, with somewhat less effort.

And it's not even unrealistic! Here's a scenario straight out of RL for ya: I once paid $100 for 4 Megabytes of ram. On several different chips! Now, kids get thousands of times as much for practically nothing!

GG, life. GG.

[Wolfie]

My position? It's in the OP. Items don't have value = not worth playing.

There is nothing more I have to say to someone who doesn't even play but has 800 posts.

Unfathomable that I have extra characters in a free-to-play game. It's also irrelevant.

I challenged your position. Defend it. Or did you not put enough thought in what you said to defend it without resorting to logical fallacies?

[Murugan]

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Straight from Yoshi-P:

"Allow me to lay down a scenario. A small group of hardcore players will skip sleep or the need to eat and jump into a high level battle right after it is released. These players will then be the first to obtain a shining rod that has devastating powers and can only be equipped by a black mage. Other players will gaze at these hardcore players with aspiration. However, in 3 months time, a solid strategy will be formulated and the difficulty level of the battle content will be adjusted too, allowing players “who cannot put their entire life into gaming” to eventually obtain the shining rod. On the other hand, the next battle content will arrive by that time and hardcore players will be able to continue challenging themselves. This is the ideal cycle for highest level items in end-game MMORPGs. (This is Final Fantasy so we plan on putting in slightly unusual features for items like Excalibur)"
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uhh... So after putting forth hard work and determination to get items from new content first they're going to make it easier for everyone else only 3 months later? Are you kidding me? What is the point in even caring enough to get something if 3 months later everyone has it?

Furthermore, what is the point in paying a monthly subscription fee to play a game where you are bored in a week right after an update?

This is a joke. This game needs to be renamed Casual Fantasy if they're going to completely copy World of Warcraft's noob-friendly-get-more-subscriptions-by-kissing-everyone's-rear protocol.

How is this going to create ANY interest in the PS3 community, attract new subscribers, and "save the game"? By letting everyone get everything they want so they can log off until another update? What is the point in continuing to play if nothing retains value? Especially if you're going to be paying for when you aren't playing.

What's the logic behind this? How is this going to make playing the game more enjoyable in the long run? By degrading people's hard work? Natural strategies will be developed by player but why should lazy people have to work less hard to get the same rewards so soon?

Look at CoP mission in XI. They made them easier years after. Not months.

Do you guys know why XI was successful and had a solid player base almost forever until the 99 cap and XIV's announcement?

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1) Items had value. Obtaining a rare and powerful item use to mean something because items retained their value for the most part. Now it will turn into "oh well I'll have that in a few months."

2) Content had longevity.
Just a few events like Dynamis, Sky, Limbus, and Sea kept people more than busy for a long time. There was content developed around lasting and still being fun. Now everything is obsolete in 3 months? Or at the very least something you "should" already have then something you're "proud" to own.

3) Character attachment.
I thought the whole point of being able to play any job on one character was just that. You would only really play one character fully because you could do anything. The items you obtained and the jobs you leveled meant something. With the changes in the claim system it looks like leveling up will lose all of it's value too. Player can as Yoshi-P said "hurry to up 50". This will mean anyone can "re-roll", get to 50, and get all the items you worked so hard to get without putting forth a fraction of the effort.
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GG SE. GG.

I'm sorry buddy but what he described was exactly the situation in FFXI and nowhere in there does it say that old gear will be 100% useless. First of all no content which has been released so far, and likely no content in the future will offer drops for every slot in every class/job/role, but yes it will probably have a few items which are better for someone just like in FFXI.

He doesn't say anything about making content easier, he says that once a strategy is formulated by hardcores that casuals can then use that to make the content more accessible just like in FFXI.

You are reading way too much into this, oh and I'm a 50 pugilist so STFU and quit your whining.

[Visch]

You gonna tell me the same thing?

I totally agree with Vawn. Maybe you could, I dunno, calm down a bit on the outrage at the idea that some other player, at some point, is going to have something that you worked hard for, with somewhat less effort.

And it's not even unrealistic! Here's a scenario straight out of RL for ya: I once paid $100 for 4 Megabytes of ram. On several different chips! Now, kids get thousands of times as much for practically nothing!

GG, life. GG.

Woah mad over opinion.

Can you calmly tell me why someone would want to pay monthly for a game they invest a week in and beat?

Is this not the game for people who know how to get things accomplished? I guess not. It's the wait 3 months game because we're bad.

I'm sorry buddy but what he described was exactly the situation in FFXI and nowhere in there does it say that old gear will be 100% useless. First of all no content which has been released so far, and likely no content in the future will offer drops for every slot in every gear, but yes it will probably have a few items which are better for someone just like in FFXI.

He doesn't say anything about making content easier, he says that once a strategy is formulated by hardcores that casuals can then use that to make the content more accessible just like in FFXI.

You are reading way too much into this, oh and I'm a 50 pugilist so STFU and quit your whining.

Did you even read the OP?

[Wolfie]

Woah mad over opinion.

Can you calmly tell me why someone would want to pay monthly for a game they invest a week in and beat?

Is this not the game for people who know how to get things accomplished? I guess not. It's the wait 3 months game because we're bad.



Did you even read the OP?

Where are you getting this "one week" figure from?

[MeowyWowie]

He doesn't say anything about making content easier, he says that once a strategy is formulated by hardcores that casuals can then use that to make the content more accessible just like in FFXI.

Ya, and it's also awesome when casuals call you a troll for not posting your strategy lol.

"Time sink =/= hard content."
"Give us HARD content."
"Quick, tell us how to beat this hard content."

lol..

[Murugan]

Woah mad over opinion.

Can you calmly tell me why someone would want to pay monthly for a game they invest a week in and beat?

Is this not the game for people who know how to get things accomplished? I guess not. It's the wait 3 months game because we're bad.



Did you even read the OP?

I did it was pretty crap, basically you misunderstood everything Yoshi said and then went on a huge rant about how everything was going to be suddenly easy and accessible. Maybe you were in a junk linkshell in FFXI or something, but this is how things worked there too bud.

[AuctionGirl]

You know that if they plan to release content every 3 months, if they just made the content take 6 months to complete, soon they would have a game that no one can complete all the content.

Please stop this easy mode. Make people earn it! That is a sense of accomplishment.

I love the idea of new content every 3 months! But easy mode is not good idea.

[TonyMontana]

Doing everything the same way the competition does it isn't a very good decision for FFXIV if you ask me, not after failing its launch. There's tons of games out there doing this already. The market is saturated with free hand-out MMOs. We don't need another.

Fact is, we knew that this was the direction they were taking once Yoshi P took control. I agree with the OP. I'm not really looking forward to it when viewing the entire game as a whole. It just seems like "What's the point?"

Maybe the genre isnt for you anymore either?

[Visch]

Maybe the genre isnt for you anymore either?

Being good at the game? Why would anyone want to do that? o.o