Warrior of Darkness: alter ego or something completely different?

[Fenral]

Its also worth remembering that in FF games Warriors of Darkness haven't necessarily been the antagonists.

I think they've only ever been evil in XI (just from what I've heard). In III, they were just the heroes representing the World of Darkness, and only failed to defeat the Cloud of Darkness for the same reason we did: we needed to attack with both light and darkness. In V, they weren't actually called the Warriors of Darkness, but there were heroes representing the mirror world who were more or less the previous generation to stand against Exdeath. They all became Obi Wan. Then there's Final Fantasy Dimensions, where the Warriors of Darkness are apparently a second playable party a la Golden Sun. If they'd ever put it on a platform I actually care about I could tell you more.


I'm with Moose as far as hedging my bets, but I would like to see FFXIV go in the FFXIII direction and have the children go on without their maker if only because I'm tired of our fairly cookie-cutter righteousness always being right. There has to be an unseen cost somewhere (besides my friends' lives), because if it were really this easy to solve all the problems in the world, it would have happened already.

[Nalien]

I'd guess they're just doppelgangers of the trailer party... Derplander is currently running around playing Dragoon, as per the trailer, meanwhile his evil twin is showing up in 3.1, and the two just don't encounter each other, meanwhile we do. Perhaps we'll even get to encounter our own doppelganger...

If the Warrior of Darkness, and his Paladin friend, just look the same as the End of an Era party without there being some connection... That just seems misleading to me... If they're just the Warriors of Darkness, why make them visibly identical to the games poster boy? Either it is Derplander, and something went wrong (we called him Derplander one too many times), or there is a reason for the similarity...

I imagine they're just copying Wings of the Goddess, and this is all building up to "and the final Spitewarden (Warrior of Darkness) is.... YOU!", either that or Derplander is still the Warrior of Light, but being called the Warrior of Darkness, because we're not... We are effectively working with aliens at this point... SomethingSomethingTheTruthAsciansKeepMentioningSomethingSomething... The final line in the trailer has quite a telling tone, and I assume Mr.WoD is the one delivering it; "So you are the Warrior of Light, the savior of Eorzea", everyone calls us the savior, everyone calls us the Warrior of Light, but what if that's not true? Derplander became the Warrior of Darkness only because consensus deemed us to be the Warrior of Light, the name was taken, and applied to something he stands against for whatever reason, so they go with the opposite.

One thing that does bother me, would be the Heavensward trailer... OK the dragon model was a mistake, but... Well, it would be very odd for them to just throw in the concept of an alternate reality Eorzea, similar to what Wings of the Goddess introduced, but that could explain a few things... The trailer doesn't show Derplander, it shows the Warrior of Darkness; He arrives at Ishgard alone, where are Tataru and Alphinaud? He joins the defense of Ishgard against Nidhogg, didn't we go on a preemptive strike into the heart of Dravania? The trailer shows the Warrior of Darkness and an alternate Eorzea, one where things went wrong. Again, I really doubt that is the case, but the trailer has just always bugged me for that... It shows events that happen in game, but it shows a different version of those events...

[Kaiser-Ace]

My personal darksteel theory is that they actually ARE Derplander and company, but something went wrong when Louisoix sent them into the rift.

I think Zodiark may have "claimed" them as his own and they've effectivly been brain washed into the Warriors of Darkness. That "Short" five year trip into the void actually showed them how a world that Zodiark wanted them to believe was going to be Hydaelyn fault and then promptly erased their memories until Elidibus (Whom I still believe is Zodiark incarnate) called upon them to "Restore Equilibrium" and thus the Warriors of Darkness went looking for us and, as they did in the past, destroyed any primal foolish enough to cross them.

But to them, The Scions never existed, the Path of the Twelve is Destroyed, Louisoix is Dead, the Archons are with a "False Hero" who's claiming to be the Warrior of Light now, and they are planing to "set things right" on behalf of the Ascians.

Even in FF3 where they originate the Warriors of Darkness were never evil simply the defence against the light becoming to powerful. Which could be the case if Zodiark=Darkness and Hydaelyn=Light. The clash may even result in both deities being awoken or sealed thus forcing an "Equilibrium" between the two.

[Cilia]

As far as the Warrior of Light's "evil" alter ego goes, that was mostly covered in the DRK 30-50 line.

In regards to the Warrior(s) of Darkness, we apparently aren't on friendly terms, seeing as Broegadyn is going to try to kill Shtola. Anything else is pure speculation.

[Anova]

i am inclined to believe we're be turning in to the warrior of darkness and that they're the true warriors of light (because I really want to summon a primal). Or perhaps that's what derplander and company think. Who knows, but at the very least it'll explain all those other adventurers going around claiming they're the WoL.

[Kaiser-Ace]

In regards to the Warrior(s) of Darkness, we apparently aren't on friendly terms, seeing as Broegadyn is going to try to kill Shtola. Anything else is pure speculation.

Reason enough to Curb Stomp Him!!

[Vejjiegirl]

Koji Fox gave us a bit of background lore on them in the past.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...626#post898626

There are a few Final Fantasy Games where they use Warriors of Darkness.
FFIII and FF Dimensions are the only ones I can think of atm.
Warrior of Darkness and Warrior of Light is mainly a title, and doesn't necessarily mean they are purely Good or Evil.

In FFIII, Just as the Warriors of Light had to defend their world from becoming engulfed by darkness, the Warriors of the Dark were forced to defend their own world from being swallowed by the light many years ago.

This is just my spectulation, but we might end up getting a Mutiple Worlds story,
One World an Erozea that has a Warrior of Light and their story Arc
And in another World an Eorzea that has a Warrior of Darkness and their story Arc (probably including the CGI Cutscenes).

I wouldn't be surprised if the other world was named Zodiark, just as our world is called Hydalen.

[Remus]

My personal darksteel theory is that they actually ARE Derplander and company, but something went wrong when Louisoix sent them into the rift.

Funny you say that because this picture got me thinking and i still don't fully understand it but you may have it on the nail...perhaps...



From what you can see they are in it seems the realm where we meet Hydaelyn and their armor appears to be how the colour was before and conjuring a axe of light meaning chances are they were warriors of light before (im sure if they were a warrior of darkness it should be a axe of darkness??? idk) but it seems they are were getting ready to attack something.

Suddenly now in the 3.1 trailer it's black. This might be a echo vision of how it happened I believe and most likely explain how they became warriors of darkness. I could be wrong but that's what I have taken from this one image.

[Iagainsti]

[Morningstar1337]

Regarding the Warrior of Darkness I think there are some possibilities as to their origins, all of which assume that Louisoux use the forbidden magick Flow to bring the Warriors of Light out of Carteneau and 5 years into the future, resulting in some of them being stuck in the Lifesteam

• Scenario A: The Ascians (Elidibus specifically) bring them out of the Lifesteam and showed them the truth about the Echo. Which means that the WoD and his party are "of one mind" with the Ascians
• Scenario B: They're Primals, made by fishing the souls of Derplander, Brogadyn, the Lalafell WHM, the Mi'quote Bard, etc. out of the Liftstream using crystals and the faith of both these individuals and the current generation of warriors (AKA Us) by summoning the souls of the former. Human hosts may be involved like in Iceheart's or Thordian's case, or they my not be.

Either way, the WoD are likely to be our enemies for now.