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    Quote Originally Posted by Lienn View Post
    Well...so long life to e-peens and bye-bye armory system? This is indeed a shame. Once again this 1.19 just looks like the end of eorzean freedom. I want to see all these e-peen being added and those who asked them so much not even being playing anymore or migrating to one of the other MMOs that are about to release... :/

    It could be so simple...a win-win deal by leaving the restricted stuff on NMs and endgame and leaving craft alone...but now seems like craft will also be f'ed up...

    I don't know why i still come and read these posts expecting for good news...i feel like those dumbasses that hit the face at glass door every single day and still keeps using that door.



    Can i have the original FFXIV released as a spin-off game? I'd love to have a chance of going back to that Eorzea...even if it meant buying a new game.
    Why would they leave crafting alone? They have to balance the system to make it all work in harmony. I don't get what you are complaining over though since they said they are going with two options instead of one extreme. There will be some items with level/class restrictions and some without. Unless you read something that I missed somehow.

    Personally I don't see how anyone would want to play FFXIV in its original state. It lacked any character uniqueness other than maybe equipping plate armor on a mage and look like a complete moron and that really destroyed the Final Fantasy feel. Final Fantasy XIV at launch did not deserved to be called Final Fantasy anything. You have your personal preference but if you like to play in garbage then go have fun dumpster diving.

    The fact is there should only be a handful of basic styles of armors that everyone can wear and use the optimal rank system. Majority of the other armor should be only wearable by certain classes (similar to FFXI), the ability for all armor to be wearable from the start by anyone was a cool idea at first but really robbed the game of having the sense of achievement when you obtain that really special armor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dargoth_Draconia View Post
    Why would they leave crafting alone? They have to balance the system to make it all work in harmony. I don't get what you are complaining over though since they said they are going with two options instead of one extreme. There will be some items with level/class restrictions and some without. Unless you read something that I missed somehow.

    Personally I don't see how anyone would want to play FFXIV in its original state. It lacked any character uniqueness other than maybe equipping plate armor on a mage and look like a complete moron and that really destroyed the Final Fantasy feel. Final Fantasy XIV at launch did not deserved to be called Final Fantasy anything. You have your personal preference but if you like to play in garbage then go have fun dumpster diving.

    The fact is there should only be a handful of basic styles of armors that everyone can wear and use the optimal rank system. Majority of the other armor should be only wearable by certain classes (similar to FFXI), the ability for all armor to be wearable from the start by anyone was a cool idea at first but really robbed the game of having the sense of achievement when you obtain that really special armor.
    Well, yes i guess i should go do some garbage diving then...because IMO that was the MMO with biggest potential i saw in years and the FFXI playerbase messed it up. While people always talk about the bad release and all that s#!t, no one actually gave time for it to develop. Yes, it was a premature and terrible release...but if wasn't the butthurt of FFXI playerbase i bet the original game would be MUCH bettter than the current one.

    And now we have a copy/paste of FFXI, a halfdead MMO...and the thing is...those who maintain the MMOs are the casual players, not the HC ones and this "everything for HCs and let the leftovers to the casuals" would just speed up this game's death. Tanaka took a few years to learn this in FFXI and, when he did, FFXI finally became a pleasant game (ToAU+). He brought all the concepts regarding FFXI flaws to this game but actually had no time to pollish them...and now the dev team is putting every concept he brought down...one by one...because i believe that Yoshida might understand the meaning of being hardcore, but not the behavior of them...but he will once the next wave of MMOs pop...because HC players are like a grasshopper swarm...they come in band, ge all they can while the population is mainly "underleveled" and, when the population become developed enough for their e-peen not being valuable enough (like the silver tricorne was at start...it was WAY more valuable e-peen-wise than any of these raid gears because of the amount of LS capable to actually atempt getting it) they just migrate to another recently launched MMO and start all over there...they rush to cap and start searching the e-peens before many others can at least atempt obtaining them...just for then to stay AFK at game main cities, showing-off his gear.

    So yes, i still have hopes up that someday (maybe now...maybe in 1 year...maybe in 3 years) they will relaunch the original FFXIV as a spin-off FF game...or maybe not even as a FF game...and you know what? I would certainly buy it once again...because that game was worth having...a game balanced in every aspect of it that was just unfortunate regarding its playerbase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lienn View Post
    Well, yes i guess i should go do some garbage diving then...because IMO that was the MMO with biggest potential i saw in years and the FFXI playerbase messed it up. While people always talk about the bad release and all that s#!t, no one actually gave time for it to develop. Yes, it was a premature and terrible release...but if wasn't the butthurt of FFXI playerbase i bet the original game would be MUCH bettter than the current one.

    And now we have a copy/paste of FFXI, a halfdead MMO...and the thing is...those who maintain the MMOs are the casual players, not the HC ones and this "everything for HCs and let the leftovers to the casuals" would just speed up this game's death. Tanaka took a few years to learn this in FFXI and, when he did, FFXI finally became a pleasant game (ToAU+). He brought all the concepts regarding FFXI flaws to this game but actually had no time to pollish them...and now the dev team is putting every concept he brought down...one by one...because i believe that Yoshida might understand the meaning of being hardcore, but not the behavior of them...but he will once the next wave of MMOs pop...because HC players are like a grasshopper swarm...they come in band, ge all they can while the population is mainly "underleveled" and, when the population become developed enough for their e-peen not being valuable enough (like the silver tricorne was at start...it was WAY more valuable e-peen-wise than any of these raid gears because of the amount of LS capable to actually atempt getting it) they just migrate to another recently launched MMO and start all over there...they rush to cap and start searching the e-peens before many others can at least atempt obtaining them...just for then to stay AFK at game main cities, showing-off his gear.

    So yes, i still have hopes up that someday (maybe now...maybe in 1 year...maybe in 3 years) they will relaunch the original FFXIV as a spin-off FF game...or maybe not even as a FF game...and you know what? I would certainly buy it once again...because that game was worth having...a game balanced in every aspect of it that was just unfortunate regarding its playerbase.
    You know FFXIV has been in the works for a couple years right? Tanaka had all his experience in MMOs with FFXI and messed it up badly. You liked it somehow majority did not. The game now is in a 150% better state than when it started and I had so much hope for this game with the team we had on it originally. He just failed on the delivery with too many "What Ifs" and "We will do that in the future", SE had to cut their loses and bring in a new team, Tanaka and Sage Sundi both admitted to failing because of what I previously said. The game did have great potential at first but lacked any content and everything that it needed to be successful. Now we got a developer who also has a massive vision even though some may not see it, and plans to make this game the success we all wanted originally. After all is said and done now at the very least FFXIV will reach the level of FFXI did and maybe if we are lucky it will surpass it.

    Also I think you what you said from FFXI being good at ToAU+ is funny because that is when the game started going downhill for me. Also you call this game a copy/paste FFXI? I don't see that, it was by design from Tanaka more similar to FFXI than it is in its current condition. The FFXI playerbase didn't effect this game in the negative in the least, because they are the ones who actually are still playing this game and if it wasn't for those dedicated FF fans, many of which played FFXI, this game would truly be dead. You say it is the casual players that support this game but that ain't true, all the people I seen from day one the hardcore players are the ones I see majority of the time on whenever I log on. I consider myself a hardcore player but I have become more casual because of no content. I want this game to succeed and it is going down the right path but has not enough content to keep me wanting to play everyday. I know a lot of HC players that have drifted to casual play til content rolls out.
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