Relic Items Easily Obtained?

[Konachibi]

Grandia was literally the first RPG I beat from start to finish on my own. FF7 being next.
For those few people who had a game like Grandia as their first experiance into RPG's it made them keep their eyes open for awesomeness.

No kidding, it made me keep my eyes open for 48 hours, literally, I couldn't get to sleep 'cos I couldn't turn it off XD

This thread needs more Grandia

Btw, I bought a deed poll to change my middle name to Grandia.

Yeah, I liked it THAT much.

[Royal]

Fixed that for you (b'.')b

I was trying to be generous .

[Konachibi]

I was trying to be generous .

I was being honest

[Jennestia]

No kidding, it made me keep my eyes open for 48 hours, literally, I couldn't get to sleep 'cos I couldn't turn it off XD

This thread needs more Grandia

Btw, I bought a deed poll to change my middle name to Grandia.

Yeah, I liked it THAT much.

Correct Music choice. I didn't like G2 as much as 1, but I liked the music.

[Lirrenure]

I would like another relic base like XI's Nyzul Isle mythic weapons. Still very powerful yet actually obtainable with some hard work

[viion]

I think relics should be pretty rare and not everyone has them.

I know Kraken Club isnt a relic but it is rare and when I was lent one for my maat cap donkies ago, it was like having sex with a celeb, i made about 9000 screenshots, 50gb of frapping.

Was ace.

[Defmetal]

As long as it's not currency based.

You can still make it hard and difficult to obtain, taking multiple raids, many tough bosses, Progression-Based areas, and all around knowledge and travel of the game so that even with a walkthrough it still takes months to obtain.

A good example were the Epics in Everquest I.
They were rare, only raiders really had them, and it took many quests across multiple expansions to obtain.
Currency stuff is just a grind fest, it doesn't make you a better player because you did Dynamis 40 times and convinced your LS to give you all the currency each time.

WoW has it's own ultimate weapons for each expansion, and then better ones come out next expansion. I think that's the best way to do this, rather than have one overarching ultimate weapon for all time. That's just stupid because then you never have anything to look forward to.
In WoW you had to spend weeks at least, questing and doing raids to obtain all the required drops, and then combine them. You'd even get a serverwide message when you obtained it (Use this idea SE). It worked, and about a year later the weapon was meaningless with a new level cap, but there was a new type of quest.


Basically, like FFXIs Empyrean Weapons now, but with more depth to them - right now they require many small soloable NMs, and a few group ones, with 3 raid bosses at the end, which unfortunately can be completed with 3 adventurers. Had those monsters required 15 players instead of 4, it would have been the right balance. It's a healthy balance, and I don't think the weapons should be upgradable so you have to start over each level cap increase. That way players won't remain "the best" forever if they stop playing - it encourages you to stay on your toes every update, as opposed to FFXI where once you obtained your relic you were done until Abyssea came out.

[Zetsumei_Tsunarashi]

I think it would be ok if relic weapons became obsolete quickly, but only if you need the old weapon to get the new weapon. Basically every expansion, your weapon evolves into a newer better one, but you can only get the newer weapon if you already had the older one. So if you never had a relic in the first place, you'd first have to get the old one in order to get the newest one. That way people who spent tons of time getting a relic won't feel pissed that now there is something better than that weapon they spent so long to get.

[Dargoth_Draconia]

I liked the rarity of relics in 11, even if I never got one for myself. Having a few in your shell was something the whole shell could be proud of.

I liked the idea but at the sametime I didn't, I hope it is cursed item of sorts when you obtain it in a group and then you have to do something to upgrade the item in a multi tiered fashion. First phase or two could be done solo, then another part done via crafting and the last phase would include some form of group content where it changes into a nice shiny item.

I didn't care for the fact it was solely obtained through dynamis and took as long as it did to obtain it. It did make the item that much more awesome to see someone have one but I literally never seen anyone with one lol. Much less ever come close to getting one myself.

[Konachibi]

Correct Music choice. I didn't like G2 as much as 1, but I liked the music.

Was that from the PS2 version of Grandia 2? I have the Dreamcast version and don't remember it sounding quite like this.

But yeah, apart from Milenia and the music, Grandia 2 wasn't as epic as Grandia 1.